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re: Derek Chauvin trial - GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES. Update: His sentencing is today
Posted on 4/7/21 at 8:27 pm to RazorBroncs
Posted on 4/7/21 at 8:27 pm to RazorBroncs
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Yes, the secret service isn't just charged with protecting the President and are an actual branch of federal law enforcement and investigation. They have a few specialties that they have investigative powers and jurisdiction over nationwide, and counterfeiting is one of them.
rooting out counterfeiters of American currency was the Secret Service's ORIGINAL job... the reason it was founded
protecting POTUS came later
This post was edited on 4/7/21 at 8:28 pm
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Posted on 4/7/21 at 8:28 pm to Rebel
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I'm pretty sure that anyone that has ever taken high school civics is aware The Secret Service is part of the Treasury Department.
That’s assuming many of them are paying attention in class and retain the info after they leave. Many of people don’t do either
That’s public school summed up
This post was edited on 4/7/21 at 8:29 pm
Posted on 4/7/21 at 8:33 pm to Rebel
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It wasn't a very good reason. The FBI is in charge of kidnapping and bank robbery. But if the local police come across either of those, they don't issue a misdemeanor citation and release the offender until the FBI can catch up with them.
There are many reasons why possessing counterfeit money is basically de-emphasized as far as local arrests and charges.
First of all, you could have a counterfeit bill in your wallet right now and not know it. Does that make you a criminal or guilty of a crime?
It would basically be impossible to PROVE that you were guilty of the crime and knew it was counterfeit, even if you received it directly from the producer. But in most cases the cash has passed through numerous innocent hands and would be impossible to trace, far beyond the manpower of the SS.
Not only that, but the Secret Service's main concern is tracking down and putting a stop to the producer of the bills. Do you think arresting everyone - innocent or not - with counterfeit bills in the area would MAYBE hinder that effort and cause them to close down shop?
This is why local PD or SS don't waste their time chasing those that have the actual bills on hand. It's basically chasing thousands of tiny threads, so they've de-emphasized the mere possession of counterfeit bills in order to go after those that produce them.
Any more smartass remarks you'd like to add?
Posted on 4/7/21 at 8:36 pm to RazorBroncs
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Any more smartass remarks you'd like to add?
yes. He didn't just have one. He had a stack of counterfeit 20's.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 8:39 pm to RazorBroncs
Just pointing out that counterfeiting is a federal law...but most states also have state laws about it.
Intentionally passing counterfeit bills is a felony in Minnesota.
Minnesota statute
609.632 COUNTERFEITING OF CURRENCY
Intentionally passing counterfeit bills is a felony in Minnesota.
Minnesota statute
609.632 COUNTERFEITING OF CURRENCY
Posted on 4/7/21 at 8:39 pm to RazorBroncs
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First of all, you could have a counterfeit bill in your wallet right now and not know it. Does that make you a criminal or guilty of a crime?
I understand what you're saying and agree that going after everyone found to be in possession of counterfeit currency is probably a waste of time and resources. But I am under the impression GF was in possession of a lot of counterfeit bills.
He didn't just get unlucky and get it back when he broke a hundred somewhere...
Posted on 4/7/21 at 8:40 pm to Womski
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Womski
Keep giving uninformed options...we value those more.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 8:40 pm to Rebel
Does anyone know why the prosecution was focusing on discussing the street made fentanyl and meth pills? Seems like a topic they should avoid.
What was the point of bringing that up today?
What was the point of bringing that up today?
Posted on 4/7/21 at 8:42 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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Does anyone know why the prosecution was focusing on discussing the street made fentanyl and meth pills
The only logical conclusion I can come up with is they were trying to prove that he spit them out, therefore he didn't absorb enough in his system to cause an overdose.
I've been wondering the same thing.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 8:44 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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What was the point of bringing that up today?
the only thing I can figure out is the state knows that information is bound to come out one way or the other. So they figure it is best they bring it out in hopes to mitigate further damage to their already damaged case.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 8:50 pm to RazorBroncs
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This is why local PD or SS don't waste their time chasing those that have the actual bills on hand. It's basically chasing thousands of tiny threads, so they've de-emphasized the mere possession of counterfeit bills in order to go after those that produce them.
Regardless...the fact that Hall and Floyd both attempted to pass counterfeit bills at the same store on the same day is PC to detain and question.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 8:51 pm to IAmNERD
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were trying to prove that he spit them out, therefore he didn't absorb enough in his system to cause an overdose.
But we already have his blood levels and experts will testify it’s in the fatal range
It’s a strange strategy. I tend to agree with rebel. They know it’s going to come out. If they present it in a less dramatic way maybe it won’t have the shock value if the jury heard it from the prosecution first.
This post was edited on 4/7/21 at 8:52 pm
Posted on 4/7/21 at 8:55 pm to theenemy
The affirmative action Police Chief stated that passing a counterfeit bill should have just been a misdemeanor citation and everyone should have gone on their merry way.
He didn't mention that a little deeper investigation revealed a "stack" of counterfeit 20's, meth, and fentanyl.
He didn't mention that a little deeper investigation revealed a "stack" of counterfeit 20's, meth, and fentanyl.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 8:55 pm to WaWaWeeWa
Yeah it is an odd strategy.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 8:59 pm to IAmNERD
And the defense still has it's Excited Delirium case to present to the jury.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 9:10 pm to theenemy
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Joel Pollak
@joelpollak
The prosecution's expert in the Derek Chauvin/George Floyd trial just agreed that some things that are "awful" might still be "lawful." That's the essence of the defense but the answer was elicited -- not on purpose -- by the prosecutor.
11:57 AM · Apr 7, 2021·TweetDeck
Is this joke of a trial over yet? I think Chauvin will be harassed the rest of his life no matter what the outcome, so while the evidence seems clear he didn't kill Floyd his life is utterly ruined all the same.
This post was edited on 4/7/21 at 9:12 pm
Posted on 4/7/21 at 9:12 pm to Rebel
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The affirmative action Police Chief stated that passing a counterfeit bill should have just been a misdemeanor citation and everyone should have gone on their merry way.
Aren't police Chiefs usually more political than law & order?
Posted on 4/7/21 at 9:12 pm to tiggerthetooth
AMS's absence is kind of telling.
Even Geekboy is waving the white flag.
Even Geekboy is waving the white flag.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 9:16 pm to Rebel
When the defense is borrowing witnesses handpicked by the prosecution you know it's bad.
The worst part about this entire thing is the media lying and a large number of people simply unwilling or unable to seek out the truth. Or they define truth as more of an emotional want than an objective reality.
The worst part about this entire thing is the media lying and a large number of people simply unwilling or unable to seek out the truth. Or they define truth as more of an emotional want than an objective reality.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 9:41 pm to tiggerthetooth
Twitter seems to think the prosecution is killing it
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