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re: Deputies arrest 4 in LSU student Madison Brooks case

Posted on 1/28/23 at 12:57 pm to
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 1/28/23 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

Edit? What words did I take out? You were describing your beliefs

I quoted every word that you edited out of the quote and the sentence. Pretending you don’t see the words is absurd. No one knows exactly what happened in that car and we are all speculating based on the info released. Time will tell.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
46889 posts
Posted on 1/28/23 at 1:01 pm to
You are playing games. You wouldn’t have used those words if you didn’t believe that (or want that to be believed).

Yes, you can hide behind the “we don’t know for sure.”

But it is clear what you believe and want to be the case so that lets Casen off the hook for pulling up and parking in the driveway for “consensual sex.”

Play games with someone else
This post was edited on 1/28/23 at 1:06 pm
Posted by Spasweezy
Unfortunately, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2014
7260 posts
Posted on 1/28/23 at 1:04 pm to
Congrats, you picked the worst person in this thread to try to discuss anything with.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40245 posts
Posted on 1/28/23 at 1:09 pm to
You really should take Kenny Rogers advice and cut your losses.

You gotta know when to hold ‘em and when to fold them.

Cut your losses and stop posting.
This post was edited on 1/28/23 at 1:10 pm
Posted by Beef Tips
Member since Jan 2013
2894 posts
Posted on 1/28/23 at 1:12 pm to
quote:

Cut your losses and stop posting.


As long as she is getting gossip to relay from her high school buddies, she is going to double down.

Like Fred said, she truly believes the shittery she types.
Posted by TigerFred
Feeding hamsters
Member since Aug 2003
27883 posts
Posted on 1/28/23 at 1:14 pm to
You could have an extra chromosome and just believe the bullshite that you make up. But we don’t know for sure.
Posted by LSUStaple
Member since Jul 2022
46 posts
Posted on 1/28/23 at 1:16 pm to
Off topic who are the criminal defense lawyers in this case?

I imagine there's some high profile lawyers around taking this case.

If I had the money I'd probably go Lewis Unglesby.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88152 posts
Posted on 1/28/23 at 1:18 pm to
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Probably because you two argue like little girls
The frick did I do to you Jones?
Posted by liz18lsu
Member since Feb 2009
18073 posts
Posted on 1/28/23 at 1:19 pm to
Let me cut to the chase. A woman of Madi's build can ABSOLUTELY be coordinated, seem to give consent, but be beyond blitzed. The law is clear and I understand this is something that seems unfair to men. The "I need a contract with written consent" seems ridiculous, but isn't so far off. The thin whisp of "consent" will be the crucial factor. The video/verbal evidence does not help the defendants.
Posted by HodsonTiger13
Member since Jan 2023
737 posts
Posted on 1/28/23 at 1:21 pm to
Joe Long and Ron Haley are two per the wafb story.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
21220 posts
Posted on 1/28/23 at 1:25 pm to
(From p. 150)

quote:

Would a white president have to come out and explain why what in white culture made it ok when two white boys rape a drunk girl? Your entire premise seems a bit amateur.


Blacks are over-represented in violent crimes compared to every other race. Yet, Tate's views do nothing to change that. On the contrary, CRT deflects responsibility for one's actions and particularly for blacks.

For example, after the Michael Brown shooting in Ferguson, MO, Tate co-authored a journal article:

Anonymity No More: Seeing Our Neighbors in Ferguson and the Implications for Social Policy.

The Abstract begins: "Ferguson, Missouri, has been characterized as an archetype of structural inequality and segregation."

Not gonna spend my time reading Tate's writings. But his views make it too easy for him to take peripheral factors and make them central (which only dilutes those that are truly central).

If the hypothetical white university had invested his life's work in advancing a worldview that promoted "white culture" that excused rape, then yes, he should be called to defend his position as well.
Posted by Spasweezy
Unfortunately, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2014
7260 posts
Posted on 1/28/23 at 1:27 pm to
They introduced themselves during the press conference and none of them came across as very savvy. Maybe they’re playing dumb for the cameras.

I found it interesting that Haley used the word “victim” when referring to Madi Brooks. I get that he was saying it in relation to the incident where she was hit and killed, but still seems like a bad word choice when you’re representing criminals that do indeed have a victim being represented on the other side of the courtroom.
This post was edited on 1/28/23 at 1:32 pm
Posted by HodsonTiger13
Member since Jan 2023
737 posts
Posted on 1/28/23 at 1:33 pm to
Here they are:

Attorney for suspects accused in Madison Brooks case speaks

WDSU News


LINK
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
36042 posts
Posted on 1/28/23 at 1:35 pm to
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I know you know feminism largely supports overturning the racial hierarchy.



How is that relative here?
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 1/28/23 at 1:38 pm to
quote:

The "I need a contract with written consent" seems ridiculous, but isn't so far off.


It’s extremely far off in this case. It’s not in the same ballpark. It’s not even the same game.

The standard for third degree rape is high because drunk people can consent to sex. It has to be actual incapacity to understand the act, and that incapacity has to be reasonably knowable to the offender.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
21220 posts
Posted on 1/28/23 at 1:40 pm to
Why does the short haired lawyer regularly begin his statements looking to his left and finish them looking to his right? Odd mannerism.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 1/28/23 at 1:41 pm to
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If I had the money I'd probably go Lewis Unglesby.


He’s not publicly in it yet. But he has a connection to Haley, whom he stuck up for when Haley got suspended.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44662 posts
Posted on 1/28/23 at 1:42 pm to
While I get that their attorneys are “doing their job,” this has to be devastating for her family to have to deal with.

I can’t imagine losing a child.

To lose one like this, with these circumstances surrounding her death, has to be hell on Earth.

God help them get through this.

Prayers to them.

Peace.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66950 posts
Posted on 1/28/23 at 1:43 pm to
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I'm not a pretty woman either. Fair or unfair, I don't have to be as vigilant as someone like her.

My wife, who is attractive ( not bragging, but just making a point here) has always been very aware of her surroundings and trusts no one. She was born in New Orleans and her mother taught her well. She's is always looking over her shoulder for that creepy guy in the shadows that we men don't ever worry about.
ButI know it's happened to her, I've seen what looked like could have led to something very bad. More than once.
Even as recently as a few days ago (she's in her 50s now) she was being scammed by a friend, who had her account hacked, to meet her to pick up a cat. ( We foster many animals and we've talked with the friend in the past).

So, absolutely Madi was in a much different position than we as guys will never understand. Too bad it ultimately cost her her life.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 1/28/23 at 1:43 pm to
quote:

Why does the short haired lawyer regularly begin his statements looking to his left and finish them looking to his right? Odd mannerism.


One crucial part of advocacy and persuasion is avoiding distraction. Great advocates can focus your attention exactly where they want it and keep it there. If you notice a mannerism when I’m speaking, I’ve failed.
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