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re: Deputies arrest 4 in LSU student Madison Brooks case
Posted on 1/26/23 at 8:36 am to HodsonTiger13
Posted on 1/26/23 at 8:36 am to HodsonTiger13
The weather record shows the temp was just above freezing at the time she was struck?
So Madison was just let out in almost freezing cold temps?
So Madison was just let out in almost freezing cold temps?
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Posted on 1/26/23 at 8:37 am to Col Nathan Jessup
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Apparently he is because every time he dares to mention that it’s a bad idea for a 19 year girl to be near blackout drunk at a bar it gets downvoted like 17-1.
Literally nobody is downvoting because we think it’s a good idea to get blackout drunk. It’s such a “no shite” pointing out the obvious sort of take. We are downvoting because it has no bearing on this:
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None of that changes the fact that the four guys are bad people
So saying it repeatedly is crass. Everybody understands her bad decision to drink.
Posted on 1/26/23 at 8:38 am to AlwysATgr
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So Madison was just let out in almost freezing cold temps
Let out is being generous. Thrown/pushed out of the car like trash is the more appropriate terminology that should be used to describe the incident.
Posted on 1/26/23 at 8:39 am to MrLSU
Is that actually confirmed?
The defense lawyer said consent was filmed.
The judge said what was filmed was the rapists laughing at an obviously intoxicated victim.
The defense lawyer said consent was filmed.
The judge said what was filmed was the rapists laughing at an obviously intoxicated victim.
Posted on 1/26/23 at 8:41 am to wadewilson
Yeah I haven’t seen anything saying the rape itself was filmed yet
Posted on 1/26/23 at 8:41 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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the pc/woke movement created a backlash of people who have to show how non-pc & no-nonsense they are at all times.
I can't upvote this enough. You see it in every gruesome crime thread. We get it. Everyone wants the perp to pay. What's with the contest to see who can come up with the most creative way to break the 8th amendment.
Posted on 1/26/23 at 8:41 am to notbilly
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I read about the argument here two days ago. This isn’t anything ‘new’. And both things can be true. They could have driven around looking for her house and she was too drunk to tell them where she lives and they starting arguing over it and she’s says I’ll get an Uber. They drop her off in the entrance of the subdivision and leave. She walks out to Burbank and gets hit.
I’m not saying it’s damning evidence or anything. Just saying I don’t understand what the lawyer thinks he is going to accomplish by making this statement.
I’ve seen speculation about an argument here, but I have not seen any reports of an argument in the news articles or the affidavits. Maybe I missed them.
My point was that the lawyer’s statement opens them up to more speculation/scrutiny from the public. It seems like he was trying to refute the idea that they simply dropped her off, by pointing out that she demanded to get out of the vehicle. I think that’s a miscalculation, but that’s just my opinion.
Ultimately it’ll all come out at trial anyway (assuming at least one of them goes to trial) so it probably doesn’t matter.
Posted on 1/26/23 at 8:42 am to wadewilson
yes. my guess is she said something to the effect of "yes" but was so clearly beyond the realm of being able to consent to anything (to a reasonable person). she was certainly an absolute mess in that car.
Posted on 1/26/23 at 8:42 am to MrLSU
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The 17 year old is the nephew of the 28 year old.
the arrest warrant says that lee is washington's uncle...
Posted on 1/26/23 at 8:43 am to MrLSU
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The 17 year old is the nephew of the 28 year old.
Wrong. Washington is the nephew of the 28 yr old.
Posted on 1/26/23 at 8:44 am to choupiquesushi
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so the rape was filmed?
The defense lawyer handed over video he said would prove the sex was consensual. It was video (according to one report) made after the sex acts. Madison was clearly out of it and the defendants laughed callously, according to the judge.
Now, does video of the actual rape exist?
I think these guys did video it and it is on a phone or in an iCloud somewhere.
I also don't think it was their first rodeo doing this. Perhaps another victim will come forward.
Someone in the thread said the 28 y.o. was there at Reggie's to sell drugs. FWIW.
Posted on 1/26/23 at 8:44 am to Chad504boy
Oh my god not the age and who was sitting where argument
Posted on 1/26/23 at 8:45 am to wadewilson
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Is that actually confirmed?
The defense lawyer said consent was filmed.
I don't understand what exactly this attorney was thinking or why he made public statements knowing her BAC was on the extreme side. Already setting up ineffective counsel for appeal?
This post was edited on 1/26/23 at 8:46 am
Posted on 1/26/23 at 8:45 am to Sampsonashford
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Are you calling me a piece of trash?
If he doesn't, I will. Everyone in their right mind has talked to their kids about this story. We have personally had in depth conversations about drinking too much, what consent truly means, and looking out for your friends in social situations.
HOWEVER, to repeatedly victim-blame that somehow Madison has some personal responsibility in how her life ended is a stupid take. And honestly, it's just mean. She's dead. She can't tell you what happened that night or take it back. She was likely coerced into the car, as even the rapists said she was trying to get in another car. The 17 year old "hugging and walking" with her could have just been leading her to the car.
Please shut up with this.
And ETA: Y'all stop blaming her friends, as well. It's like none of you have ever been to a bar before. You don't walk around holding hands.
This post was edited on 1/26/23 at 8:52 am
Posted on 1/26/23 at 8:45 am to Sampsonashford
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Let me get this straight. So she made a good decision?
Are you drunk? Or is Tulane that weak on teaching the rigor of critical thinking?
Posted on 1/26/23 at 8:46 am to wadewilson
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Is that actually confirmed?
Yes one of the news outlets reported it.
Posted on 1/26/23 at 8:48 am to jdd48
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Already setting up ineffective counsel for appeal?
In my own personal view, that would be gross malpractice.
This will go to the First Circuit. I doubt the Supreme Court would touch it. And the chances of either saying that the defendant gets a new trial because the lawyer made terrible choices is very, very low.
And then you would just get tried again.
This post was edited on 1/26/23 at 9:17 am
Posted on 1/26/23 at 8:49 am to HodsonTiger13
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Someone in the thread said the 28 y.o. was there at Reggie's to sell drugs. FWIW.
I think he was referred to as a “street pharmacist.”
Posted on 1/26/23 at 8:50 am to MrLSU
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Yes one of the news outlets reported it.
Ehh I wouldn’t take that as gospel.
Journalism ain’t what it used to be, and there are a lot of outlets pretty far from Baton Rouge covering this at the moment. Wouldn’t surprise me at all if a video of her in the truck got misreported as a video “of the rape.”
Such a video may be out there, but I think there would be a lot more reporting on it if the media knew it existed.
Posted on 1/26/23 at 8:50 am to jdd48
Lawyer was trying to frame the case in the minds of the public - or a certain subset group of the public.
"Drunk white girl. Poor black boys charged." Go read the WAFB comments. Get a couple with that mindset on the jury = not guilty.
Daily Mail just updated their story. True crime podcasts and Dateline NBC likely on the way to BR now.
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BREAKING NEWS: Two men arrested in connection with rape of LSU sorority student Madi Brooks have been released from jail: Casen Carver, 18, and Everett Lee, 28, post $125K bond
"Drunk white girl. Poor black boys charged." Go read the WAFB comments. Get a couple with that mindset on the jury = not guilty.
Daily Mail just updated their story. True crime podcasts and Dateline NBC likely on the way to BR now.
LINK
BREAKING NEWS: Two men arrested in connection with rape of LSU sorority student Madi Brooks have been released from jail: Casen Carver, 18, and Everett Lee, 28, post $125K bond
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