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re: Dallas area hospitals are starting to require all staff get Covid vaccine...
Posted on 7/29/21 at 7:19 am to Burt Reynolds
Posted on 7/29/21 at 7:19 am to Burt Reynolds
quote:
If a private company wants to require a vaccine, they have the right to do it. That’s the beauty of the free market
What free market?
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Posted on 7/29/21 at 7:25 am to TheFlyingTiger
Ochsner is going to require something similar. All employees must be vaccinated or they have to wear a N95 mask throughout their shift and be tested weekly. The entire VA system is also requiring vaccinations for its employees.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 7:25 am to KLSU
quote:
Is a private company free from HIPAA and other laws?
Yes it is.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 7:58 am to Burt Reynolds
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Either way, good luck boycotting hospitals. Just lather those essential oils next time you have a heart attack
This is mind numbingly stupid. Or did we miss the part where the hospital said they will deny patients at the ER who aren’t vaccinated in direct violation of federal law (EMTALA)?
Or deny any unvaccinated patients at all for that matter?
Posted on 7/29/21 at 8:02 am to saderade
quote:
Ochsner is going to require something similar. All employees must be vaccinated or they have to wear a N95 mask throughout their shift and be tested weekly. The entire VA system is also requiring vaccinations for its employees.
Once FDA approved then it will be mandatory
EUA - The govt has full control over the vaccines
FDA - The pharmaceutical companies have full control over the vaccine
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:03 am to the_watcher
quote:
This is mind numbingly stupid. Or did we miss the part where the hospital said they will deny patients at the ER who aren’t vaccinated in direct violation of federal law (EMTALA)?
Or deny any unvaccinated patients at all for that matter?
We are talking about vaccinated hospital employees here.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:21 am to Big Block Stingray
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It's an act of congress to get exemption from the flu shot, I can only imagine what it will take for the Covid vaccine.
I’ve worked in many hospitals and have never been required to get a flu shot. That is nowhere near the standard.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:39 am to Burt Reynolds
quote:
If a private company wants to require a vaccine, they have the right to do it. That’s the beauty of the free market
Great. From now on I am going to require all of my employees to vote for conservatives. If they do not show me the proof of their votes they will be fired.
My company is private after all and liberal policies do far more damage to my business than employees having Covid.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:48 am to KLSU
quote:Requiring a vaccine has 1 difference from those...it's legal.
Does a private company get to discriminate on hiring?
Does a private company get to pay less than minimum wage?
Can a private company fire you for your religious beliefs?
Is a private company free from HIPAA and other laws?
Not sure what point you were going for there?
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:52 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
quote:I wish you good luck!
Great. From now on I am going to require all of my employees to vote for conservatives. If they do not show me the proof of their votes they will be fired.
My company is private after all and liberal policies do far more damage to my business than employees having Covid.
I'm certain nothing at all will go wrong because you can always just say, "but it's ok to require vaccines?" and everyone will say you're right and you can continue requiring your employees to vote conservative, I'm 100% certain that will work in your favor!
This post was edited on 7/29/21 at 9:53 am
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:55 am to YouAre8Up
quote:This isn't a political issue. And if you really want to make it one, Trump was the one spearheading the rushing out of vaccines. Unless you forgot that part.
none of the left can answer why
Posted on 7/29/21 at 10:12 am to Saintsisit
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So on one hand they're saying the Delta Varient is not stopping transmission while vaccinated, then on the other forcing vaccinations because of it.
I see that this has become the new anti-vaccine talking point to fear monger over the vaccine. The vaccine greatly reduces your chance of symptomatic infection (pretty sure that the mRNA vaccines were around 85% effective in England vs. delta). So yes, there is a chance that if you’re vaccinated you can catch and pass it on. However, you greatly reduce your chances of getting it with the vaccine and (most importantly and what’s overlooked) is the vaccines are extremely effective against hospitalization and death. That’s what it should all be about, especially as hospitalizations surge again.
This post was edited on 7/29/21 at 10:15 am
Posted on 7/29/21 at 10:17 am to St Augustine
quote:It is definately the norm
I’ve worked in many hospitals and have never been required to get a flu shot. That is nowhere near the standard.
quote:LINK
Nearly 70 percent of non-VA hospitals require vaccination, compared with 4 percent of VA hospitals, U-M/VA team’s survey finds
Posted on 7/29/21 at 10:22 am to Burt Reynolds
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Sounds pretty normal for all hospitals. Most hospitals required the flu vaccine before covid started
The flu vaccine is FDA approved and not classified as experimental - FAIL.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 10:28 am to KLSU
quote:Of course they can discriminate. You think employers have to hire every applicant?
Does a private company get to discriminate on hiring?
You are thinking of unjust discrimination based on class, the inherent qualities of people that they can't change and which make them who they are.
quote:Tipped workers, interns. But I don't see how two parties coming to terms fits into your argument.
Does a private company get to pay less than minimum wage?
quote:Generally no, as religion is considered part of the essence of a person and is a protected class. However if one's religious practices interfere with job performance he can absolutely be let go.
Can a private company fire you for your religious beliefs?
quote:Yeah I think so.
Is a private company free from HIPAA and other laws?
quote:You need to start over.
on and on and on and on.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 10:29 am to PentagonTiger
quote:
vaccines are extremely effective against hospitalization and death
Which is the exact reason they shouldn't be pushed on kids and young healthy adults.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 10:29 am to CharlieFoxtrot
quote:Are all of the unvaccinated just waiting for government to tell them it's ok?
The flu vaccine is FDA approved and not classified as experimental - FAIL.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 10:30 am to Big Block Stingray
Good, all healthcare workers should be required to be vaccinated.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 10:33 am to Big Block Stingray
this may come as a surprise, but i don’t really have a problem with hospital and healthcare related workers being required to get the vaccine. they work with sick people day in and day out, they shouldn’t be a vector for the virus. to me that makes sense.
but i’d rather not see other private companies outside of healthcare forcing their employees to get vaccinated. i feel like we’re opening a can of worms.
but i’d rather not see other private companies outside of healthcare forcing their employees to get vaccinated. i feel like we’re opening a can of worms.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 10:35 am to Korkstand
quote:It'll be funny to watch that poster and the others move the goalposts on to the next reason why they're not getting the vaccine.
Are all of the unvaccinated just waiting for government to tell them it's ok?
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