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re: Crime is OOC around the country

Posted on 1/24/22 at 9:57 am to
Posted by frequent flyer
USA
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 1/24/22 at 9:57 am to
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Violent crime is prosecuted the same today as it was 10 years ago.


I don’t think that’s true anymore. Especially in places like New Orleans.
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 1/24/22 at 9:57 am to
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This new breed of DA's (who I often disagree with, fwiw) have focused in on reforming penalties for minor crimes. Violent crime is prosecuted the same today as it was 10 years ago.





Literally all of this is a lie
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116321 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 9:58 am to
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This new breed of DA's (who I often disagree with, fwiw) have focused in on reforming penalties for minor crimes. Violent crime is prosecuted the same today as it was 10 years ago.


HAHA
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
7441 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 9:58 am to
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What do you disagree with them on? Be specific. Thanks.


One example would be larceny and theft. What's going on with people looting stores without any fear of reprisal is just beyond me.

I understand we (taxpayers) can't afford to build more and more prisons. I understand we have the highest incarceration rate in the world. I understand prison isn't really reforming people the way it's intended to. I understand nonchalantly throwing around felonies at young people leads to more unproductive citizens as they mature and can't get jobs. I understand our prisons are filled with non-violent drug offenders.

These are all problems with the CJ system and, yes, I do believe major reforms are necessary. But to just STOP prosecuting property crimes is just stupid and counterproductive.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
19425 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 9:58 am to
When Trump was in office this shite lead every news cycle to show everyone how divided the country was.

Now that the retard Brandon is in charge you never hear anything

Posted by DownSouthJukin
Coaching Changes Board
Member since Jan 2014
27399 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 9:58 am to
Move out of the cities and towns.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116321 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 9:59 am to
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That stat is even more alarming when you consider the 13.1% includes females - in reality over 37% of violent crimes are committed by ~6.5% of the population....




Its way less than even that.

There are more black females than black males, on top of that the vast majority of the crimes are black males between the ages of like 13-30 or something.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112734 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:00 am to
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I understand we (taxpayers) can't afford to build more and more prisons.


Why not?

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I understand we have the highest incarceration rate in the world. I understand prison isn't really reforming people the way it's intended to. I understand nonchalantly throwing around felonies at young people leads to more unproductive citizens as they mature and can't get jobs. I understand our prisons are filled with non-violent drug offenders.


Literally all of this is emotional blubber. You know how you stop crime? You put people who commit crime behind bars.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
7441 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:00 am to
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Literally all of this is a lie


Point me to one of these new-age DAs that has put a policy in place to stop prosecuting violent crime.

I mean, if that's the case, that's fricked up. But I followed several of those candidates' social media during election season and I can't, for the life of me, remember one of them saying they were going to stop prosecuting violent criminals.

And I'm talking policy, btw. Not one or two or slipped through the cracks which, if you're being honest, has happened forever.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Member since Feb 2005
58956 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:00 am to
Enabling bad behavior is what gave birth to the criminal element, and enabling bad behavior is what causes it to flourish.


Don’t think there’s no devious agenda behind this either. It plays to humanities worst attributes, laziness, apathy, immorality, and deliberate irresponsibility. The net result from this will eventually be the destruction of this country from top to bottom. It’s what has happened to all great societies. Take your pick throughout history, and you’ll find that to be true. The biggest problem as i see it though is those who know better didn’t speak up, and for whatever reason were silenced and intimidated into not speaking up for fear of being seen as the heavy, the meanie, or much worse.

Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
7441 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:02 am to
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Literally all of this is emotional blubber. You know how you stop crime? You put people who commit crime behind bars.


For a thinking man, it's far more than "emotional blubber", unless you think the CJ system should be without nuance and a grasp of the overall sociological and societal impacts of mass incarceration.
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9657 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:02 am to
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Point me to one of these new-age DAs that has put a policy in place to stop prosecuting violent crime.


I have a newly elected one in my community that just let a rapist and another murderer off without a fight.

From what I hear on the street, violent criminals are flocking to my community because they think nothing will happen to them.

At some point I might be safer living inside a prison.
This post was edited on 1/24/22 at 10:13 am
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112734 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:03 am to
Pretending that we can "reform" the system by letting out criminals and hoping for a different outcome is retarded.

Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
7441 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:04 am to
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I have a newly elected one in my community that just let a rapist and another murderer off without a fight.


You got a news report I can read? Was it his policy or just incompetence? My county is full of incompetence and "good ole boy" workings. Pisses me off to no end.
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9657 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:07 am to
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72189 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:07 am to
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Point me to one of these new-age DAs that has put a policy in place to stop prosecuting violent crime.
It doesn’t have to be a stated policy.

It is how they act as DAs.

There was a post on here, I think yesterday, where a progressive DA gave a man, who set his pregnant GF on fire, only $5k bond.

I could also post the actual prosecution statistics for NOLA comparing the previous DA to this one, which is night and day.

The actual fact is, the party you so vociferously support has put in place DAs and legislation that severely undermined society’s ability to prosecute crimes, even violent ones.

There are always consequences to certain actions, and this is a consequence of the platforms you support.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119502 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:08 am to
I mean, this is the America that we voted for in 2020.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116321 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:11 am to
First of all, they don't have to say it. They can just do it.

You can look at the accepted charges rates for them vs. previous DAs.

They are almost all accepting charges for violent crimes at a MUCH lower rate.

Beyond that...

When you decide you aren't going to prosecute a long list of crimes, that cascades up to larger crimes getting out of control.

Broken Taillight policing and prosecuting WORKS.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116321 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:14 am to
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, unless you think the CJ system should be without nuance


It is the DA's job to prosecute all crimes when committed to the full extent of the law.

If a Legislature wants to incorporate "nuance" they can.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134887 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:15 am to
This is all right wing propaganda. There is no crime problem in this country because my block is perfectly fine

-ellishughtiger, Tboy
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