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re: Court house in #Louisville is being boarded up right now. Re Breonna Taylor

Posted on 6/18/20 at 3:42 pm to
Posted by The Pirate King
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Member since May 2014
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 3:42 pm to
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At the wrong address. That can't ever happen.


it wasn’t the wrong address, the police had belief that address was being used to receive packages by the suspects.

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But a judge had also signed a warrant allowing the police to search Ms. Taylor’s residence because the police said they believed that one of the two men had used her apartment to receive packages.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 3:43 pm to
was she fricking a drug dealer?

yes or no?
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26608 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 3:43 pm to
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I'm all for changing the law, but I'm not sure these guys should be charged with murder for doing their jobs legally.


They should not be charged.

But this case more than anything recently is begging for a massive protest - not for the cops getting off the hook, but for the fact that this shite is legal to begin with. Rand Paul has sponsored a bill to end no-knock raids. We should all watch to see who votes against it.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
21027 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 3:44 pm to
Don't know the facts of this case, but would the homeowners have been charged had they won the gun fight?
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
19513 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 3:45 pm to
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was she fricking a drug dealer?

yes or no?


from what I can tell, she was previously fricking a drug dealer before the current boyfriend. Do I have that wrong?
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26608 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 3:46 pm to
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Like I said, whoever fricked up the address needs to face consequences, and the way these types of warrants are handled needs major reform.



Even if the address is correct (sometimes they aren't) - it's still extremely dangerous to both the police officer and the resident of the dwelling. These cops aren't walking in there politely. If they think you are going for a gun, they are dropping you...regardless of if you are even who they are looking for.
This post was edited on 6/18/20 at 3:47 pm
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38177 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 3:46 pm to
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was she fricking a drug dealer?

yes or no?




maybe? Maybe they should have raided the boyfriend's apartment instead, because her apartment was clean?
This post was edited on 6/18/20 at 3:47 pm
Posted by DustyDinkleman
Here
Member since Feb 2012
20039 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 3:47 pm to
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she was in bed with someone shooting at cops that entered the apartment?


Pretty watered down version of what really happened
Posted by bigpetedatiga
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2009
8775 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 3:48 pm to
Dont forget the little detail about the suspect they were looking for already being in custody.

Plus charging the boyfriend with attempted murder of police.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26608 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 3:50 pm to
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Plus charging the boyfriend with attempted murder of police.



He shot at people that were breaking into his house. That's not attempted murder. That's self-defense IMO.

That may be worth protesting.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 3:51 pm to
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He shot at people that were breaking into his house. That's not attempted murder. That's self-defense IMO.

That may be worth protesting.



Those charges were dropped pretty quick I believe.
Posted by phil good
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
1704 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 3:52 pm to
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Plus charging the boyfriend with attempted murder of police.



Wait! What???
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10622 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 3:53 pm to
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no knock warrant in the middle of the night, wrong house (I think?), the boyfriend thought someone broke in (which they did) and opened fire. She was shot 8 times and killed. Not really the standard we should set.

Edit: I don't think it was techncially the wrong house, but her residence was on the warrant, but no contraband turned up and they basically executed a no knock warrant for no reason.


I think the person they were after used to live there. Maybe an ex or something with other connections with to apartment and woman killed.

But I think it had been awhile since they were together at address and no knock done without any recent verification that person still stayed there. Can't remember exactly. They didn't hit shooter (legal gun owner saying it was no knock and that no one was identifying as police when entering making him think it was a break in), but possibly someone from outside also shot her when shooting started as she moved away from gun owner. I need to reread on it, but besides entry it seemed like cops panicked and shot at first thing they saw instead of who shot at them (regardless of no knock part).
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
65583 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 3:54 pm to
Why are all of today's civil rights leaders total pieces of shite?
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
20895 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 3:54 pm to
So if some crack head CI gives the cops my address and says drugs were delivered to my house they then have the right to kick my door in and put everyone involved in jeopardy?

I can see some fat frick deputy posing in front of my .22 pistol and deer rifle along with the 4 hydrocodone left over from my knee surgery 2 years ago.

War on fricking drugs man. SMH
Posted by dinosaur
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
1165 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 3:56 pm to
I wonder if the real problem is the "no knock" warrant or the likely horrible outcome if the police go to the wrong house, or if the warrant is obtained improperly. I mean, with a bad warrant they can knock and then a few seconds later knock the door down claiming they heard some thing suspicious inside. I suspect the real problem is that some judges sign off on anything dropped on their desk. A lot of completely innocent people have guns and will shoot first when someone breaks into their home. The Taylor case is an example of the terrible outcome from a bad warrant. In my opinion, keeping the police from killing innocent people is worth losing a drug case because a guy flushed the evidence.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
35884 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 3:56 pm to
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knock warrants are BS, but they're currently legal. I'm all for changing the law, but I'm not sure these guys should be charged with murder for doing their jobs legally. This may be a bad assumption, but I'm assuming the cops who did the shooting were not the ones who fricked up the address. I would think they were given the address. Again, that part may be a bad assumption though.




They should at the very least be fired and not allowed to be employed by any other agency in that state.


Like when a doctor loses his license for gross negligence.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
70888 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 3:57 pm to
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They should at the very least be fired and not allowed to be employed by any other agency in that state. 


Why? They didnt do anything wrong.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
35884 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 3:57 pm to
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this may have some truth but the incident report reeks of a cover up





What report?



That motherfricker was basically a blank template.
Posted by Pfft
Member since Jul 2014
5092 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 3:58 pm to
Dems want this SOO bad, riots are good for keeping libs in power.
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