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re: Court house in #Louisville is being boarded up right now. Re Breonna Taylor

Posted on 6/18/20 at 3:32 pm to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 3:32 pm to
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If people break into your home, what is your first reaction? Because when these kinds of raids happen, the occupant of the house may not know know if it's a crackhead or a cop. They just know that an invasion is in progress.

You would act in self-defense.



I don't disagree. But the cops got fired on, I'm not faulting them for returning fire.

Like you edited in, this had nothing to do with race most likely. I agree reform is needed with these types of warrants. And whoever was responsible for the wrong address should face some major consequences.


Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 3:32 pm to
No-Knock warrants should be outlawed and done away with.

Based on the current laws and protocols, I doubt they are able to get an arrest at all.

But I want these policies changed so we never have to see another case like Breonna Taylor or Kathryn Johnston ever again.
Posted by goofball
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 3:33 pm to
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Antifa finally made it


I would rather this not be clouded by their violent bullshite.

This is an eye opening example of why people of all races should fight hard against a no-knock raid like this. It's dangerous for everyone. The cops know they are likely to get shot at because they are surprising the occupants by breaking down a door, so they go in ready to light everyone up.
Posted by Spyhunter3
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 3:33 pm to
So Louisville is about to show Hotlanta how it's done?
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 3:33 pm to
The attorney general didn’t do anybody any favors today by holding a press conference to say the investigation was ongoing but that no details will be released. It’s been three months now. Something has to give.
Posted by REG861
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 3:34 pm to
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This is a tough one for me. Her case is a huge tragedy, especially considering they had the wrong house and the person they were seeking were already in custody.

No knock warrants are BS, but they're currently legal. I'm all for changing the law, but I'm not sure these guys should be charged with murder for doing their jobs legally. This may be a bad assumption, but I'm assuming the cops who did the shooting were not the ones who fricked up the address. I would think they were given the address. Again, that part may be a bad assumption though.



this may have some truth but the incident report reeks of a cover up
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 3:34 pm to
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It's dangerous for everyone. The cops know they are likely to get shot at because they are surprising the occupants by breaking down a door, so they go in ready to light everyone up.



They should write the drug dealers a letter and let them know the time and place that they will be raided.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 3:34 pm to
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this may have some truth but the incident report reeks of a cover up



I forgot about that. Yeah i dont recall everything that was wrong on the incident report but it was a very bad look.
Posted by goofball
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 3:35 pm to
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I don't disagree. But the cops got fired on, I'm not faulting them for returning fire.


They are being charged with doing something that's dangerous and stupid. They need to make sure they go home to their families at night too.

I can't blame them.

But this is an example where cops participated in a legal action and fricked it up royally. The dipshit they were actually looking for (but was not there) was already in custody at the time.
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 3:35 pm to
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i mean, she was fricking murdered


Wrong. She was a bystander shot in a horrible case of mistaken identity. There wasn’t any intent or premeditation. Police knocked, no answer, guy comes out firing and she’s shot when police return fire.

quote:

the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.


Dictionary definition of murder.
This post was edited on 6/18/20 at 3:38 pm
Posted by The Third Leg
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 3:36 pm to
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I don't know how no-knock warrants are legal.

They started with Nixon’s hardon for drug crime. Then, when cops fricked up too many of them, Congress started holding hearings, and put them on the shelf. Fast forward into Reagan’s era, and they reintroduced them with little public discourse.

It is now the standard with which a drug warrant is executed. It is estimated that 8-10 of these deaths of innocent people happen yearly.
This post was edited on 6/18/20 at 3:37 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 3:37 pm to
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But this is an example where cops participated in a legal action and fricked it up royally. The dipshit they were actually looking for (but was not there) was already in custody at the time.


Like I said, whoever fricked up the address needs to face consequences, and the way these types of warrants are handled needs major reform.

I think we agree on this situation, but are talking about it form different sides.
Posted by Purple Spoon
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 3:37 pm to
Imagine being woken up in the middle of the night to guys kicking in doors and shining lights in your face and screaming.

If I have a pistol within reach I’m at least grabbing it but doing so could give the cops a reason to fill me up with slugs. Not to mention who is around me.

In this particular situation, frick the cops and everyone involved in this. I wasn’t even the right place.
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 3:38 pm to
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and the way these types of warrants are handled needs major reform.


Unless new information has come out, police had a no-knock warrant and still knocked.
Posted by Harry Caray
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 3:38 pm to
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she was in bed with someone shooting at intruders that broke into the apartment? Is that the gist of it?

fixed it for you
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 3:39 pm to
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Imagine being woken up in the middle of the night to guys kicking in doors and shining lights in your face and screaming.

If I have a pistol within reach I’m at least grabbing it but doing so could give the cops a reason to fill me up with slugs. Not to mention who is around me.

In this particular situation, frick the cops and everyone involved in this. I wasn’t even the right place.


why do people keep saying it wasn't the right place. They signed off on her apartment to be raided too bc previous packages were delivered there.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 3:39 pm to
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Unless new information has come out, police had a no-knock warrant and still knocked.


At the wrong address. That can't ever happen.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 3:40 pm to
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They should write the drug dealers a letter and let them know the time and place that they will be raided.



The justification for these no-knock raids are so that cops can burst in and seize evidence before it is destroyed.

This is unfortunately not the only time an innocent person has been killed defending their home from intruders. Cops have gotten the wrong address in some cases. Some other times, informants give them the wrong house. Innocent people end up dead.

I don't think no-knock warrants should be legal. Law Enforcement doesn't always have good enough information to administer these kinds of warrants. I'm also a real stickler when it comes to property rights - Breonna Taylor was exactly where she was supposed to be when this all went down.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 6/18/20 at 3:40 pm to
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this may have some truth but the incident report reeks of a cover up



Yeah true, charges appropriate there if so

The police definitely circled the wagons in a highly distasteful way, at minimum.

But in a normal environment I feel like this is a situation where people at high positions are forced to resign, her family gets paid, the boyfriend gets paid and apologized to and the laws get changed.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 3:41 pm to
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this had nothing to do with race most likely.


Recently happened in Houston To white people.
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