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Posted on 3/28/20 at 1:40 pm to CCT
With the news that Trump may be ordering a quarantine of NY, NJ, and CT I'm wondering under what Federal authority they can use to legally enforce this?
Posted on 3/28/20 at 2:12 pm to Honkus
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Honkus
Do we need to start a thread to get you and your family BACK to China at this point?
This post was edited on 3/28/20 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 3/28/20 at 2:31 pm to Burhead
quote:
With the news that Trump may be ordering a quarantine of NY, NJ, and CT I'm wondering under what Federal authority they can use to legally enforce this?
He'll just make it up.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 2:33 pm to Burhead
quote:
With the news that Trump may be ordering a quarantine of NY, NJ, and CT I'm wondering under what Federal authority they can use to legally enforce this?
The many pro-states rights on the poli talk are sure to love this decision
Posted on 3/28/20 at 2:50 pm to Dire Wolf
There will be so many exceptions to any quarantine it probably won’t matter. Not to mention there was already mass exodus which just got accelerated when Trump floated this.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 3:19 pm to Malik Agar
The Chinese are just increasingly massive pieces of shite.
That is insane.
That is insane.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 3:22 pm to Scruffy
I try not to be racist but real life fricks that up on the reg
Posted on 3/28/20 at 3:25 pm to Freight Joker
That’s going to be some shite if when this is all said and done, a big part of the seeding of the USA came over in the flights of Honkus and the rest of that crew.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 3:29 pm to tigerskin
Thats unlikely. They would be a very very tiny percent
This post was edited on 3/28/20 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 3/28/20 at 3:30 pm to Scruffy
First they start the pandemic.
Then they lie about it over and over and try to cover it up.
Their own lies didn't work so they make/bribe the WHO lie about it too.
But wait that's just the beginning since there's money to be made off desperate people in the West so they sell fake tests.
That's good and all, but they can make even more money by selling the West fake masks too.
Finally, China is not getting the respect that they deserve so they demand that the world thank them for helping and praise them for "stopping" it in their own country while it gets out of control in the rest of the world.
After all of this bullshite, I'm convinced that they are the most evil country to ever exist.
Then they lie about it over and over and try to cover it up.
Their own lies didn't work so they make/bribe the WHO lie about it too.
But wait that's just the beginning since there's money to be made off desperate people in the West so they sell fake tests.
That's good and all, but they can make even more money by selling the West fake masks too.
Finally, China is not getting the respect that they deserve so they demand that the world thank them for helping and praise them for "stopping" it in their own country while it gets out of control in the rest of the world.
After all of this bullshite, I'm convinced that they are the most evil country to ever exist.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 3:30 pm to Malik Agar
Posted on 3/28/20 at 3:31 pm to Tiguar
Tiguar how are your people and your facility? And you? Feeling better?
Posted on 3/28/20 at 3:33 pm to CCT
Agree, it could be allergies but I don't have any of those typical symptoms (nasal congestion, sneezing, watery eyes,...etc). Ready for all of this to be over with...
This post was edited on 3/28/20 at 4:15 pm
Posted on 3/28/20 at 3:38 pm to tigerskin
quote:This shite was here looooong before the Honkexit.
That’s going to be some shite if when this is all said and done, a big part of the seeding of the USA came over in the flights of Honkus and the rest of that crew.
China now says their 1st known case was November 17. There were thousands of daily passengers between China and the US for 2 months before the travel ban.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 3:39 pm to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
No it wasn’t. The ICUs weren’t seeing these people with these breathing issues and CXR’s like that back then.
This post was edited on 3/28/20 at 3:41 pm
Posted on 3/28/20 at 4:33 pm to rds dc
I decided to do some digging, to see if I could figure out why Italy's number of new confirmed cases isn't declining.
I know that part of Italy's problem is that their overwhelmed and overcrowded hospitals actually became hotspots of virus transmission, as patients were crowded into waiting rooms and hallways and the infected ones shared the virus with those who were there for other reasons.
But I also wonder how observant people were of the first national shutdown, which took effect on March 12. I know that 40,000 people were charged with breaking it. I think that lots of Italians didn't take it very seriously. There's a real difference between cultures in northern and southern Europe in terms of how closely people follow regulations. So, I think that the initial shutdown wasn't really effective for a few days.
It took some hunting, but I was finally able to dig up Italy's testing numbers, and I can tell you that Italy is actually getting better. Italy has expanded their testing recently. They tested 35,447 today and 33,039 yesterday, and that's a higher percentage of their population than we're testing. So, 5994 new cases divided by 35,447 tests gives a 17% positive rate, which is a lot, lot lower than it has been for them.
Let's compare. A week ago today, they had 6578 new cases out of 26,342 tests, for a 25% positive rate.
So, my conclusion is that Italy has peaked in terms of true new cases (not just positive test results). They are testing 35% more people per day than they did a week ago, and still getting about the same number of new positive cases. That means that they are catching more cases earlier in the cycle -- they're "catching up" a little.
Let me explain. When you have a limited number of tests, then you end up using them to test only your sickest patients, waiting until they are hospitalized or even later, because there simply aren't enough tests. But you have to test those really sick people whom you're sure are positive, even if they're already dead, because you need that data for epidemiological purposes. So, you aren't catching any of the early cases, when it would be possible to warn family and coworkers to self-quarantine. So, your tests are of very limited use in slowing the spread. Now, though, the tests are picking up more people earlier in the cycle.
I can point to other evidence that Italy has actually peaked. Their total "currently positive" population (those who have tested positive, minus the dead and the recovered) jumped by 4421 on March 21st, while today that number only increased 3551.
I conclude that Italy's "real" daily number of newly-infected has begun to decline, and I predict that Italy's confirmed daily new cases will start to significantly decline in the next five days, and then the past peak will become clear.
I know that part of Italy's problem is that their overwhelmed and overcrowded hospitals actually became hotspots of virus transmission, as patients were crowded into waiting rooms and hallways and the infected ones shared the virus with those who were there for other reasons.
But I also wonder how observant people were of the first national shutdown, which took effect on March 12. I know that 40,000 people were charged with breaking it. I think that lots of Italians didn't take it very seriously. There's a real difference between cultures in northern and southern Europe in terms of how closely people follow regulations. So, I think that the initial shutdown wasn't really effective for a few days.
It took some hunting, but I was finally able to dig up Italy's testing numbers, and I can tell you that Italy is actually getting better. Italy has expanded their testing recently. They tested 35,447 today and 33,039 yesterday, and that's a higher percentage of their population than we're testing. So, 5994 new cases divided by 35,447 tests gives a 17% positive rate, which is a lot, lot lower than it has been for them.
Let's compare. A week ago today, they had 6578 new cases out of 26,342 tests, for a 25% positive rate.
So, my conclusion is that Italy has peaked in terms of true new cases (not just positive test results). They are testing 35% more people per day than they did a week ago, and still getting about the same number of new positive cases. That means that they are catching more cases earlier in the cycle -- they're "catching up" a little.
Let me explain. When you have a limited number of tests, then you end up using them to test only your sickest patients, waiting until they are hospitalized or even later, because there simply aren't enough tests. But you have to test those really sick people whom you're sure are positive, even if they're already dead, because you need that data for epidemiological purposes. So, you aren't catching any of the early cases, when it would be possible to warn family and coworkers to self-quarantine. So, your tests are of very limited use in slowing the spread. Now, though, the tests are picking up more people earlier in the cycle.
I can point to other evidence that Italy has actually peaked. Their total "currently positive" population (those who have tested positive, minus the dead and the recovered) jumped by 4421 on March 21st, while today that number only increased 3551.
I conclude that Italy's "real" daily number of newly-infected has begun to decline, and I predict that Italy's confirmed daily new cases will start to significantly decline in the next five days, and then the past peak will become clear.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 4:40 pm to tigerskin
quote:
No it wasn’t. The ICUs weren’t seeing these people with these breathing issues and CXR’s like that back then.
At least not in the numbers today. If you go by the 'exponential growth' model we had to have cases prior to realizing something was up.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 4:41 pm to tiger91
we're starting to get a little uneasy, institutions around us are starting to get busy and we're wondering when its gonna hit us harder, but we're good for now
I feel a little better, may have just been allergies
I feel a little better, may have just been allergies
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