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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***
Posted on 3/21/20 at 3:20 pm to Lsupimp
Posted on 3/21/20 at 3:20 pm to Lsupimp
It is not limited to masks and it is not limited to this crisis. On a weekly basis we are on backorder for a multitude of products and drugs are manufactured outside of our country. The reason? Because its cheaper and the bottomline in a for profit system matters. The US healthcare system is not as great as many believe. Look at our mortality rates with infants specifically. We are driven by money not by altruism. This should be a wakeup call that we lack the domestic infrastructure to keep our citizens healthy and safe.
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Posted on 3/21/20 at 3:28 pm to jennBN
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Look at our mortality rates with infants specifically.
Oh boy.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 3:34 pm to jennBN
There is nothing less intelligent than using the failures of a crisis as a baseline, and then imagining that profit motive is to blame for those failures . Poor management and lack of emergency planning is the problem. Now the problem is identified and will be remedied . Also, FTR, there is nowhere on planet earth where any State is motivated by altruism. Individuals can be motivated by altruism if they choose. But The State is about control. To believe in the Benevolent State is foolhardy and always ends tragically.
Step back . We aren’t going to give up our freedom because you lack medical supplies. Instead, we will probably demand that we maintain more pandemic- level medical supply levels. We don’t throw the baby out with the bath water when we experience a setback. We aren’t going to renounce Capitalism because of Covid-19.
Step back . We aren’t going to give up our freedom because you lack medical supplies. Instead, we will probably demand that we maintain more pandemic- level medical supply levels. We don’t throw the baby out with the bath water when we experience a setback. We aren’t going to renounce Capitalism because of Covid-19.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 3:34 pm to jennBN
I said I missed the pre-voting TD days. In this case, I wish I could vote more than once. Down.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 3:43 pm to Lsupimp
Honest question: is there a country our population size and geographic size better prepared? Not to say there’s not room for improvement, clearly there is.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 3:57 pm to jennBN
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It is not limited to masks and it is not limited to this crisis. On a weekly basis we are on backorder for a multitude of products and drugs are manufactured outside of our country. The reason? Because its cheaper and the bottomline in a for profit system matters. The US healthcare system is not as great as many believe. Look at our mortality rates with infants specifically. We are driven by money not by altruism. This should be a wakeup call that we lack the domestic infrastructure to keep our citizens healthy and safe.
Doesn't the US triple the pharma R&D spend of the next closest country?
Posted on 3/21/20 at 4:12 pm to Pettifogger
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This should be a wakeup call that we lack the domestic infrastructure to keep our citizens healthy and safe.
That you Bernie?
Posted on 3/21/20 at 4:13 pm to Klark Kent
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Honest question: is there a country our population size and geographic size better prepared? Not to say there’s not room for improvement, clearly there is.
Just think if Burr and co weren't total twats back in min January and put the slightest effort into an actual plan via tests, timeline, etc.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 4:19 pm to STLhog
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Just think if Burr and co weren't total twats
Hopefully one thing to come out of this will be more people realizing that politicians, on both sides of the aisle, are, for the most part, twats
Posted on 3/21/20 at 4:27 pm to jennBN
quote:how about you teach central supply to order correctly and quit waiting till last minute.
is not limited to masks and it is not limited to this crisis. On a weekly basis we are on backorder for a multitude of products and drugs are manufactured outside of our country.
I bet half if it isn’t on backorder and the distributor is just getting thrown under the bus.
You know where half the product is coming from that is coming to the market? Expired product that no one ordered.
And most of the n95 masks are sold w no fit kit. Because that costs a few bucks. This is on the hospitals for not being prepared.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 4:34 pm to tigerfoot
Posted on 3/21/20 at 4:40 pm to Lsupimp
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We aren’t going to give up our freedom because you lack medical supplies.
Which freedoms would those be?
Posted on 3/21/20 at 4:42 pm to Unknown_Poster
You’re serious?
Posted on 3/21/20 at 4:42 pm to ell_13
Anyone else in your household get it?
Posted on 3/21/20 at 4:44 pm to SabiDojo
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You’re serious?
Can you list them? We'll see if you're actually right or making up shite you can't find in the Constitution.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 4:48 pm to Unknown_Poster
LINK
This site has hospitalizations at 1,964. Not sure how reliable their data is, and it looks like some states aren't reporting hospitalizations, but it gives us a little idea.
This site has hospitalizations at 1,964. Not sure how reliable their data is, and it looks like some states aren't reporting hospitalizations, but it gives us a little idea.
This post was edited on 3/21/20 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 3/21/20 at 4:50 pm to gumpinmizzou
Solid link. Thanks.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 4:51 pm to jennBN
quote:I think it’s the opposite case for children.
Look at our mortality rates with infants specifically. We are driven by money not by altruism.
If children’s hospitals were all about the bottom line, they wouldn’t be holding fundraising in every community they are in. I don't think those are money making endeavors.
This post was edited on 3/21/20 at 4:54 pm
Posted on 3/21/20 at 4:55 pm to Unknown_Poster
Looking at their data for NY, they have around a 10% hospitalization rate with 1,603 out of 10,356 cases. That's the largest sample size we have to go off.
ETA: Lazy math on my part
. That's actually a rate of 15.47%
ETA: Lazy math on my part
. That's actually a rate of 15.47%This post was edited on 3/21/20 at 5:00 pm
Posted on 3/21/20 at 5:00 pm to gumpinmizzou
quote:That number is line with the data from Italy/China.
Looking at their data for NY, they have around a 10% hospitalization rate with 1,603 out of 10,356 cases. That's the largest sample size we have to go off.
ETA: Lazy math on my part . That's actually a rate of 15.47%
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