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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***

Posted on 3/15/20 at 12:59 am to
Posted by LSUJML
Central
Member since May 2008
56683 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 12:59 am to
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It says I’ll get a tax credit if I’m hit with this as a small business but I’d have to survive to get the tax credit. Survive as a business.


There are 3 of us in a 15 month old company
We are all pretty nervous
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
122892 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 1:01 am to
If we can keep the death toll below 100 - your business and livelihood are totally worth it
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21544 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 1:12 am to
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Here’s the latest: cautious optimism.


That has been going around this evening. I posted this on the poli board in response:

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It’s now believed that Covid-19 was in China much earlier than reported. Perhaps as early as mid October.



This is an interesting theory and I've seen arguments for as early as September. However, a number of researchers have been reviewing ILINet & WHO-NREVSS data for the US and as of 3.13.20, there still wasn't strong evidence of a high volume undetected COVID-19 in the data. Also, the earliest sequence up on Nextstrain is from mid-Jan from Washington state. The Seattle Flu Study group has been looking into the data and hasn't been able to find anything before that mid-January case.

Of less certainty since it relies of info form China:

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This phylogeny shows an initial emergence in Wuhan, China, in Nov-Dec 2019 followed by sustained human-to-human transmission leading to sampled infections.



LINK

One of the open source preprint papers out there on the ILI data - LINK

I'm not arguing against the theory that it has been around longer than originally thought. However, there is some research that points to the later timeline.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 5:47 am to
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I don't see a problem with the government shutting downs bars and shite for a two week period, no.


I do
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85108 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 6:36 am to
Nike just closed all stores... I’d imagine a lot of companies will follow suit

Apple and Nike... I’d imagine Starbucks is next to go
Posted by Capt ST
High Plains
Member since Aug 2011
13674 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 7:03 am to
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But how many of you have had friends, family, or yourselves that had coronavirus type symptoms but tested negative for flu?


Several of us at work had something around Xmas. No one tested positive for anything. I went to urgent care twice over 10 day period. 2 guys had pneumonia for a while, one being in ICU for over a week.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11821 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 7:17 am to
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71159 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 7:36 am to
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You think this has become just an inconvenience? Is that what you call sending kids home for 30 days? Cancelling all sports? People losing jobs (possibly my wife)?

frick you.


And all of it fueled by media hysteria. When the death toll in the United States for this disease turns out to be extremely low when all of this is over, we will all pat ourselves on the back and say it's because of the preventive measures we took to combat the disease. In actuality, however, it will be because this disease was never THAT dangerous in the first place.

Posted by MadDogs
Member since Jul 2018
454 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 7:40 am to
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I'm not arguing against the theory that it has been around longer than originally thought. However, there is some research that points to the later timeline

I think we all want to believe this theory is true and it sounds reasonable. I honestly don't trust anyone's analysis of anything anymore. Too many vested interests. I'm going to try and found the source data and do some analysis of my own. I'm tired of seeing charts without links to source data.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53469 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 7:45 am to
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Also, the earliest sequence up on Nextstrain is from mid-Jan from Washington state. The Seattle Flu Study group has been looking into the data and hasn't been able to find anything before that mid-January case.


The most damning thing to the theory is that they were able to phylogenetically confirm the earliest it was in the US was around Jan 10-15.


So all this talk about it being around prior to the original time table is academic. Even if true, it was kept purely internal of China. It didn’t go international until we were already aware of it.
This post was edited on 3/15/20 at 7:53 am
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11594 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 7:49 am to
If it had been around longer, why are we only now seeing what’s happening in Italy and Wuhan? Did it mutate?

People with flu-like symptoms in December likely had a strain of flu that wasn’t being tested for. At least that’s my theory.
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
31030 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 7:54 am to
Good morning sheep.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53469 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 7:55 am to
It’s just the latest shifting goalpost trying to rationalize this as the same as flu.

The ironic part is that the first non-traced and confirmed cases in Washington was because doctors were screaming at the CDC for weeks that they didn’t give a frick that the patients didn’t travel, that this wasn’t flu.

Got angry enough they made a local test rather than wait for the CDC any longer.
This post was edited on 3/15/20 at 7:56 am
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 7:56 am to
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Good morning sheep.




The poliboard infestation of the OT is spreading.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 7:58 am to
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The most damning thing to the theory is that they were able to phylogenetically confirm the earliest it was in the US was around Jan 10-15.


Exactly. It’s wishful thinking to believe that we have all already gotten it. There is plenty of evidence to say otherwise.
Posted by CoastLSUFan
Member since Nov 2010
751 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 8:03 am to
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But how many of you have had friends, family, or yourselves that had coronavirus type symptoms but tested negative for flu?


My 19-year-old daughter did (no pics). She went out with a few friends on the weekend of Feb. 22. On Tuesday night, Feb. 25, she called me and told me she felt terrible—body aches, fever, chills, dry cough. On the morning of Feb. 26, she went to the urgent care clinic. Flu test was negative, so they did blood work, which indicated that she definitely had a virus. Since all of her symptoms coincided with flu, they prescribed Xofluza, prednisone, and cough syrup with codeine. Daughter decided to come home from college to convalesce. (She is a diamond girl who normally works baseball games and had to call out for the midweek game because she was sick. She would not have called out unless it was really bad.)

During her time at home, I basically Lysoled the hell out of anything she touched. (SOP in my house when someone gets sick.). Meanwhile, the cough would not stop. It was awful.

On Saturday, Feb. 29, I drove her to local urgent care clinic. (I made her wear a mask in the car and Lysoled after she got out.). The NP at urgent care said her “flu” had progressed to bronchitis and that she was wheezing terribly. She had not had a bout with asthma in years before that. The NP prescribed an antibiotic, two different types of inhalers, and a lower dose of steroid (since the prednisone made her crazy and she wouldn’t take it any more). She still had fever at this point.

March 1, she woke up not running a fever any more. Still coughing, but not quite as bad. She drove back to school that night.

March 2-5, she was back in class to catch up on her classes. She had two big tests to make up. Meanwhile, she was still coughing and having trouble catching her breath after walking to class. No fever. Completely exhausted. Skipped all her sorority stuff that week and did nothing but school and sleep. She also did not go work out at OTF, which is indicative of how bad she felt, since she is religious about going to her 5 AM OTF workouts.

She still was coughing and had trouble catching her breath, so she went to the student health center on Wednesday, March 4. The doctor said her wheezing was still bad and asked her if she’d gotten a chest x-ray, which she had not. The doctor told her to keep using the inhalers and steroids and to come back again if she didn’t improve in a couple of days.

She finally started feeling better and came home for Spring Break. She’s been pretty normal since then—just an occasional cough. She still needs to use her inhaler, though. She went to Destin to meet a few friends and went to baseball games at MGM Park on Tuesday and Wednesday. Seems to be on the mend.

Did she have Covid-19? I don’t know. No one in her circle had traveled to an affected area recently, so it is doubtful. Still, the thought has occurred to us. Neither my husband nor I ever got sick, but I am religious about disinfecting everything and minimizing contact when someone in the house gets sick. We’ll probably never know if she had it unless they come out with a titer test that can show if a person has had it and recovered.
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
31030 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 8:05 am to
Currently there are 0.00000907% of the US population infected by Coronavirus.








Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 8:07 am to
I had a dry cough for about 2 weeks with a mild fever (~100) for 4 days about a month ago.

Hard to say it was COVID-19 but also don't really know so there's that lingering "mmaaayyybee" feeling
This post was edited on 3/15/20 at 8:07 am
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 8:16 am to
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Currently there are 0.00000907% of the US population infected by Coronavirus.


Posted by uscpuke
Member since Jan 2004
6311 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 8:18 am to
Chick-Fil-A closed today. Expect others to follow suit!
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