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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***
Posted on 3/7/20 at 3:56 pm to Oates Mustache
Posted on 3/7/20 at 3:56 pm to Oates Mustache
It’s hard to quantify “severity” but there is that data on mortality.
Feel free to ignore the flu side. It’s just the graphic I already had handy.
Feel free to ignore the flu side. It’s just the graphic I already had handy.
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Posted on 3/7/20 at 3:58 pm to Volvagia
Everybody dead yet?
No?
Carry on.
No?
Carry on.
Posted on 3/7/20 at 4:05 pm to BuckyCheese
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Everybody dead yet?
What a shallow and dick response. Who the hell in this thread is making remarks as if everyone here thinks they are gonna die? You know that you can post and read updates without freaking out or thinking you are gonna die.
This post was edited on 3/7/20 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 3/7/20 at 4:06 pm to Volvagia
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hard to quantify “severity” but there is that data on mortality.
Not really, they survey pain index, surely you can create a scale for other symptoms. People are freaking out but if, let's say 85% have minor coughing, mild fever, etc. you'll give people a much better idea of how it affects the majority.
Posted on 3/7/20 at 4:15 pm to Oates Mustache
I am American. I come from a people who lose 647,000 a year to heart disease and still stand in line at KFC for a piece of fried chicken between two donuts. We choose death over cowardice.
Posted on 3/7/20 at 4:17 pm to Volvagia
Any idea how other countries can test so many but we cannot?
Posted on 3/7/20 at 4:23 pm to Oates Mustache
What’s the difference between minor and moderate coughing?
It’s it based on frequency of the cough? The duration? The depth?
And who decides it? The patient’s self-assessment or by a professional?
Didn’t say it was impossible. Just that it is hard to do so in a manner that you can derive usable data from.
You’d need a lot more time than they have had so far to even decide how you were going to collect that data, much less start collecting it.
By comparison, the binary conditions of death/recovery, hospitalization, ICU admission are far easier and more clear.
It’s it based on frequency of the cough? The duration? The depth?
And who decides it? The patient’s self-assessment or by a professional?
Didn’t say it was impossible. Just that it is hard to do so in a manner that you can derive usable data from.
You’d need a lot more time than they have had so far to even decide how you were going to collect that data, much less start collecting it.
By comparison, the binary conditions of death/recovery, hospitalization, ICU admission are far easier and more clear.
Posted on 3/7/20 at 4:24 pm to Dominate308
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We choose death over cowardice.
If you’re living for yourself then go all out. But if you have others depending on you, you should choose the more responsible path.
Posted on 3/7/20 at 4:34 pm to Volvagia
That has been debunked several times.
Posted on 3/7/20 at 4:43 pm to ctiger69
Honest question
Let’s say Ebola broke out in Wuhan in Dec instead of this coronavirus
Would it have spread as much and gone all over world?
Let’s say Ebola broke out in Wuhan in Dec instead of this coronavirus
Would it have spread as much and gone all over world?
Posted on 3/7/20 at 4:45 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I think the problem with Ebola is it’s too effective at killing people.
Posted on 3/7/20 at 4:48 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Ebola is an Africa disease. Not even comparable.
Posted on 3/7/20 at 4:49 pm to Volvagia
V, how would a vaccine work in terms of transmission to citizens?
Watched Contagion for the 80th time last night and it was selected via lottery/birthday.
Watched Contagion for the 80th time last night and it was selected via lottery/birthday.
Posted on 3/7/20 at 4:57 pm to lsu13lsu
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Any idea how other countries can test so many but we cannot?
Because they don’t want to. Hell, we make most of the test kits other counties are using.
The limitation isn’t physical, assuming they got their manufacturing problems resolved on the reagent.
Equipment wise? The machine that runs these samples typically can load and test 100-400 samples concurrently, with each cycle taking 1-3 hours. And pretty much every hospital lab is going to have the machine.
CDC is still working on a serological field test.
They stonewalled testing early, using restrictive criteria (which is the same used in most of Europe BTW), and I suspect they don’t want to relax the rules too fast causing a surge of cases (and associated panic)
This post was edited on 3/7/20 at 5:03 pm
Posted on 3/7/20 at 4:58 pm to The Egg
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how would a vaccine work in terms of transmission to citizens?
I would start with the most at risk populations. Healthcare workers would probably be first because you want them to be able to stay at work. Then immune compromised, the elderly, and down the chain.
But by that time a good percentage of the population may already be immune.
Posted on 3/7/20 at 4:59 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Would it have spread as much and gone all over world?
Nah. Ebola is a terrible candidate to cause a pandemic. When you get Ebola, you want to stay home and then you bleed out of your eyes until you die.
Unlike people who get the coronavirus and immediately want to go to the other side of the planet.
Posted on 3/7/20 at 5:00 pm to ctiger69
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That has been debunked several times.
I’ll gladly accept an alternative age based breakdown of mortality. Please post it or a link.
Honestly some of the numbers seem off.
But the trend has held in multiple places, circumstances, and held up even in extensive testing scenarios.
Don’t tell me the “debunking” you are referring to are the amateur epidemiologists in here talking about how they feel about the numbers?
This post was edited on 3/7/20 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 3/7/20 at 5:00 pm to WaWaWeeWa
The body count will be high. Nearing a million men and women I would hazard to guess. No walk in the park
Posted on 3/7/20 at 5:05 pm to TigerstuckinMS
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Unlike people who get the coronavirus and immediately want to go to the other side of the planet.
Posted on 3/7/20 at 5:10 pm to The Egg
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V, how would a vaccine work in terms of transmission to citizens?
In what case?
With an agent like contagion? Probably lottery with the extra rider of a portion of total production being reserved for high risk personnel.
If this does get at all serious, I’d imagine health care workers would get first grabs ahead of the public.
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