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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***

Posted on 2/9/20 at 8:49 pm to
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 2/9/20 at 8:49 pm to
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should have been more active on OT instead of OB 3 years ago. You’d get my sarcasm, perhaps this isn’t the right thread.


Idk what the hell is going on in this thread the past week or so. As it's slowed down the craziness has ramped up.
Posted by Capt ST
High Plains
Member since Aug 2011
13674 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 8:52 pm to
I’m only here for the ratings. And enjoying the Immunity to the Coronavirus.??
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21557 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 9:06 pm to
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“Considering the size of the Chinese population in Africa and the large number of people who continue to go back and forth, it’s either incredible luck or poor screening that explains why there’s still not a confirmed case on the continent,” said Eric Olander, managing editor of the China Africa Project at the University of Witwatersrand in Johannesburg.


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Moreover, an estimated one million Chinese nationals live in Africa and around 80,000 African students live in China, according to Johns Hopkins University, including many in the city of Wuhan, the epicenter of the outbreak.


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There are still less than 500 confirmed cases outside of China. Hong Kong seems like the most likely place to watch but many African nations are still allowing free movement of those from China.

Posted by Capt ST
High Plains
Member since Aug 2011
13674 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 9:16 pm to
So I’m good to work in Thailand and Kazakhstan?
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85161 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 9:20 pm to
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There are still less than 500 confirmed cases outside of China. Hong Kong seems like the most likely place to watch but many African nations are still allowing free movement of those from China.


People are shitting bricks in SG. Runs on pharmacy’s and no masks to be found. Friends posting videos on IG. Pretty amazing stuff to see. Stores with entire aisles of stuff bare and people beating down doors to get in.
Posted by Dominate308
South Florida
Member since Jan 2013
2895 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 10:01 pm to
It’s probably already in the US and circulating. Once the first walk ins get tested positive there will be a panic the likes we’ve never seen in our lifetime.
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
11960 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 10:12 pm to
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Brit may be named a "super spreader".

Wasn't in China.

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The middle-aged man contracted the virus during a conference at the Grand Hyatt hotel in Singapore organised by Servomex, a British gas analytics company, more than two weeks ago.


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Five Britons who shared the ski chalet with him were diagnosed over the weekend, and hundreds of residents of the picturesque town are now undergoing tests


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An Easyjet spokesman said it had contacted all of the passengers and crew on the infected carrier's flight from Geneva to London Gatwick on January 28.

Five employees at The Grenadier pub in Hove have been instructed to self-isolate after the man visited for two hours on February 1.

A school pupil in the area was also told to self-isolate during the investigation into the man's movements.

The meeting in Singapore was attended by 94 other business people, with participants from Malaysia, South Korea and Britain also diagnosed with coro


And there are some other cases that may trace to him.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
35973 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 10:22 pm to
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participants from Malaysia, South Korea and Britain also diagnosed with coro


Well frick.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105334 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 11:50 pm to
Beijing now on lockdown per reddit
Posted by reo45
Member since Nov 2015
6362 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 12:05 am to
China has said the survival rate for serious patients is 6% and critical being 1%. WHO says up to 82% mild cases, some could turn for the worse.

Lancet says the real rate of death is 15%. Do the math and it comes to around 15-17% survival rate. They aren't reporting the deaths accurately, why? Well, we can speculate all day, but the numbers don't lie. As more and more get infected the rate will approach its percentage number as WHO, Lancet, and Beijing authorities have said in their own words. Follow the crumbs and not the numbers they fork out.

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Although The Lancet published a recent study showing the coronavirus achieving a 15% death rate among those who are infected, the WHO, increasingly siding with communist China’s discredited “official” figures, claims the death rate is only 2%.


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(Put on your math hat, because this article contains a lot of math. Fortunately it’s only about 7th grade math, so perhaps even CNN might be able to follow it.)

This means, of course, that 18% of coronavirus cases are either “serious” or “critical,” since those are the other two designations which are possible.

The percentage of people who survive those two designations is surprisingly low, according to China’s own official sources. The communist Chinese regime is trying to spin the very low survival rates as some sort of “good news,” not surprisingly. Here’s how the SCMP reported the spin:

Speaking at a press conference in Beijing, Wang Guoqiang, an infectious disease expert at Peking University No 1 Hospital, said that preliminary data about people who had recovered after being infected was promising.

Based on a small sample of discharged patients from Wuhan, the city at the centre of the outbreak, Wang said that about 6 per cent had recovered after being in a serious condition, while less than one per cent had recovered after being classed as in critical condition.

Only in China could a 6% survival rate for “serious” patients be considered good news. Similarly, a 1% survival rate for “critical” patients is also being spun as good news.




Let's continue

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If you do the math, this means that 94% of patients in “serious” condition don’t recover, which means they die. Similarly, 99% of those in “critical” condition also die.

Out of every 100 infected people, we now know that 82 will be classified as “mild,” and we also know that 18 will be either “serious” or “critical,” but we’re not yet sure exactly how many will be “serious” vs. “critical.” For this investigation, we’ll have to estimate that. So we’ll be conservative and estimate that, out of the 100 original patients, 14 end up in serious condition and 4 in critical.

So here are our working numbers so far:

For every 100 infected people:

82 = Mild status
14 = Serious status
4 = Critical status

Now, let’s assume that 100% of the “mild” status patients survive. We also know, from Wang Guoqiang, above, the survival rates of those in “serious” or “critical” conditions:

Survival rates:

Mild status (82 / 100) = 100% survival
Serious status (14 / 100) = 6% survival
Critical status (4 / 100) = 1% survival

With these data outlined, then, what is the total number of deaths per 100 people who are infected?

To get the answer, we first calculate the number of survivors: (0.82 x 100) + (0.06 x 14) + (0.01 * 4) = 82 + 0.84 + 0.04 = 82.88

So we know there are 83 survivors out of every 100 infected patients.

That means there are 17 who do not survive (i.e. deaths). That’s another way of saying the mortality rate is 17%, by the way.

Note carefully that this is almost entirely based on numbers coming out of China that the Chinese government is trying to spin as “good news.”

It’s also very consistent with the early study out of The Lancet that documented a 15% mortality rate among those who are infected. That study is found here:




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China lies. We know they do. Just math. It isn't the flu. The article destroys that myth further into it.
This post was edited on 2/10/20 at 12:35 am
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
11960 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 12:07 am to
Bloomberg reports the Cruise Ship off shore Tokyo now has an additional 60 Corona infections in addition to the 70 they already had diagnosed.
(I've used up my monthly allotment so I can't see what else they have to report.)
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
11960 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 12:14 am to
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Multiple organ failure cause of death in the not-old and no pre-existing medical condition patients.

Interesting read.

And 97 died yesterday
Posted by MikeyFL
Member since Sep 2010
10337 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 2:49 am to
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China lies. We know they do. Just math. It isn't the flu. The article destroys that myth further into it.


Take that back imperialist scum.

In particular, let us all celebrate the magnificent achievements of our comrades in Zhejiang province. Even though the entire province is in lockdown and 1,092 confirmed cases have been reported, not one single person has died from 2019-nCoV.

Truly, government officials have discovered the secret to eternal life in Zhejiang, and the world should salute their scientific triumph.
This post was edited on 2/10/20 at 2:54 am
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53483 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 3:04 am to
That’s a whole lot of typing based on some false premises.

The Lancelot article said mortality is 15% among those hospitalized, not infected.

And there is a lot of jumping around in your post about mortality and survival rate. Care to share where China said the survival rate is 6% for serious cases and critical being 1?

Because um.....the lancelet article extensively followed on the medical history of those hospitalized. Even did a comparative study on infected vs those in the ICU. And no where did a mortality rate of 90+% emerge.
This post was edited on 2/10/20 at 3:52 am
Posted by Asharad
Tiamat
Member since Dec 2010
6346 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 5:29 am to
In cases where the patient died, the mortality rate was 99%.
Posted by Armymann50
Playing with my
Member since Sep 2011
22407 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 5:38 am to
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In cases where the patient died, the mortality rate was 99%
+-1
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85161 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 6:18 am to
Friends in HK and SZ being told to work from home until end of Feb now... they’ve already been stuck home for 2 weeks.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23462 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 6:22 am to
Solid evidence that they are playing around with cause of death to ratchet down mortality for this event as well.

If you die of organ failure or pneumonia you aren’t part of that total quoted.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66950 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 6:35 am to
I wouldn't necessarily believe exact numbers, even if it were to be occurring right here in the South. Not that I believe they'd be purposely deceitful, just that I don't think its easy to pinpoint who has what sickness, and especially this being such a new and bizarre phenomenon of biblical proportions.
Then,you can add on top of that what communist China wants the world to know
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46217 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 6:36 am to
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The Lancelot article


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.the lancelet article




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