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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***
Posted on 7/11/20 at 6:17 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 7/11/20 at 6:17 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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CA, TX, ax, and FL made a huge mistake letting bars reopen
I'm very much in the reopen everything camp but even I can see how bars and these large party spots can be problematic. Buckeye_vol mentioned Put in Bay which is another party area here in Ohio; they just made 1000 tests available to the workers on the island and a few bars have shut down on their own in an attempt to slow the spread. Bars usually involve close proximity for extended periods of time (which is the type of exposure where the virus can really spread) than you throw in the effects of alcohol on how careful people are and you have a bad recipe.
I have pretty much been living my life as normal for the past few months, but there are occasions where I'll avoid entering an area just because the risk isn't worth it to me for whatever I'm getting out of it. We have to make these calculations for ourselves everyday.
I've been out to eat with friends a few times, but I've also gotten takeout more than I used to. If I go to pick up my food and there is a crowd of people waiting inside, I'll just wait outside. I did have an accident last weekend that would have normally sent me to the ER. I made the calculation that I was better off patching myself up at home and only going to the hospital if things got worse which they thankfully haven't. I did fly to Hartford a few weeks ago for some business and felt the plane and airport to be fairly safe. Almost 100% mask usage and people were keeping their distance. The flight was earily silent. The social distancing was admittedly a lot easier with the airports being nearly empty.
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Posted on 7/11/20 at 8:41 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
>>CA, TX, ax, and FL made a huge mistake letting bars reopen.
The state fatalities data does not appear to support this. It was said months ago that FL, TN, TX etc. would go the way of Italy and NY. Updated Sat. 7/11 am:
The state fatalities data does not appear to support this. It was said months ago that FL, TN, TX etc. would go the way of Italy and NY. Updated Sat. 7/11 am:
Posted on 7/11/20 at 4:05 pm to LaneRat
Where can I take the rapid tests in BR?
Posted on 7/12/20 at 12:09 am to GeauxTime9
Just got back from Destin. Good News...apparently there is no pandemic down there.
I’m probably going to die.
I’m probably going to die.
Posted on 7/12/20 at 11:04 am to LaneRat
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>>CA, TX, ax, and FL made a huge mistake letting bars reopen.
The state fatalities data does not appear to support this. It was said months ago that FL, TN, TX etc. would go the way of Italy and NY. Updated Sat. 7/11 am:
A graph with the NY data... The nCFR for NY is still up near 8%, while Texas is at 1.2%. Maybe one state is actually managing this crisis better than another? Won't hear that in the MSM.
Posted on 7/12/20 at 12:02 pm to rds dc
Anyone got a link to the mask order?
Posted on 7/12/20 at 4:38 pm to LSU Fan 90812
No one really switched their POV. But keep in mind there were/are really 3 different camps when it comes to how we should respond to this virus:
Team A: ”shut it down until it’s eradicated, you grandma killers”
Team B: “it’s a hoax/democratic conspiracy, just the flu,etc...”
Team C: “shutdowns in March ok contingent upon increasing testing capacity, PPE supply, and verifying hospitals won’t be overburdened - otherwise we need to be as open as possible”
No one swapped teams (that I can see), but in March Teams A and C were aligned against Team B that this is at least a serious threat. Once we passed the 1st peak and exploded testing capacity, team C changed alignments and are now aligned with Team B.
Team A: ”shut it down until it’s eradicated, you grandma killers”
Team B: “it’s a hoax/democratic conspiracy, just the flu,etc...”
Team C: “shutdowns in March ok contingent upon increasing testing capacity, PPE supply, and verifying hospitals won’t be overburdened - otherwise we need to be as open as possible”
No one swapped teams (that I can see), but in March Teams A and C were aligned against Team B that this is at least a serious threat. Once we passed the 1st peak and exploded testing capacity, team C changed alignments and are now aligned with Team B.
Posted on 7/12/20 at 6:36 pm to rds dc
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A graph with the NY data... The nCFR for NY is still up near 8%, while Texas is at 1.2%. Maybe one state is actually managing this crisis better than another?
From that graph it seems that NY and GA are going down and TX and AZ are going up.
Could NY's higher overall rate be that 1/3 of the city was already infected at the point American politicians were saying "nothing to see here" and the CDC didn't even have tests available to know if that was true?
And, could it be that the death rates per infection have dropped everywhere (NY, GA, TX, AZ et al) -- knock on wood -- be that we've learned a bit about treating it (one main argument for the lockdowns to postpone infections, by the way) and perhaps are also now dealing with a slightly less potent mutation of the virus?
I would be more likely to say that places that have cases staying under control enough to continue reopening more and more instead of going backwards --and maybe even playing sports like they've been doing in Europe for 2 months by now-- are doing better.
This post was edited on 7/12/20 at 8:28 pm
Posted on 7/12/20 at 7:30 pm to BRIllini07
quote:
No one really switched their POV. But keep in mind there were/are really 3 different camps when it comes to how we should respond to this virus: Team A: ”shut it down until it’s eradicated, you grandma killers” Team B: “it’s a hoax/democratic conspiracy, just the flu,etc...” Team C: “shutdowns in March ok contingent upon increasing testing capacity, PPE supply, and verifying hospitals won’t be overburdened - otherwise we need to be as open as possible” No one swapped teams (that I can see), but in March Teams A and C were aligned against Team B that this is at least a serious threat. Once we passed the 1st peak and exploded testing capacity, team C changed alignments and are now aligned with Team B.
Bravo sir.
Posted on 7/13/20 at 4:00 pm to LuLu023
So, California is shutting back down a whole bunch of stuff (gyms, salons, churches, etc.).
However, I don't see any discussions about extending the unemployment benefits. I wonder if this 2nd shutdown will be the end for a lot of jobs and businesses.
However, I don't see any discussions about extending the unemployment benefits. I wonder if this 2nd shutdown will be the end for a lot of jobs and businesses.
Posted on 7/13/20 at 4:41 pm to GetCocky11
If antibodies don't last long as a new study suggests, this is going to be ugly.
It will mean periodic vaccines throughout the year and you know a lot of people won't get them.
It will be very interesting to know if asymptomatic people who get it a second time continue to be asymptomatic the second go round.
It will mean periodic vaccines throughout the year and you know a lot of people won't get them.
It will be very interesting to know if asymptomatic people who get it a second time continue to be asymptomatic the second go round.
Posted on 7/13/20 at 4:51 pm to MadDogs
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earily silent.
I here ya.
Posted on 7/13/20 at 6:54 pm to ulsaint
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It will mean periodic vaccines throughout the year and you know a lot of people won't get them
I don't see enough opting out to be a big deal.
If all the high risk people get it, that essentially solves the problem. Hospitalizations should remain in acceptable range.
If 50% of everyone takes it, I don't see how hospitalizations remain a problem.
This post was edited on 7/13/20 at 6:55 pm
Posted on 7/13/20 at 8:39 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
Anyone have any info/data empirical or anecdotal about what percentage of deaths are patients coming from some type of assisted living situation?
Posted on 7/13/20 at 9:01 pm to ulsaint
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If antibodies don't last long as a new study suggests, this is going to be ugly. It will mean periodic vaccines throughout the year and you know a lot of people won't get them.
No. Not at all.
It means two things:
1. The antibody studies are underestimating the true number of infections meaning it’s even less deadly.
2. Even if people get infected again it’s almost certainly going to be less severe and maybe not even noticeable at all. Unless someone is very sick or immune compromised, but that’s always true for many of different pathogens.
Antibodies not lasting very long is not necessarily a bad thing
Posted on 7/13/20 at 9:25 pm to GeauxTime9
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Where can I take the rapid tests in BR?
Screw that. Will just be more numbers for the hysteria. This virus is weak, fight it off, stay home 2wks if you think you have it.
Posted on 7/13/20 at 11:59 pm to Kingpenm3
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Anyone have any info/data empirical or anecdotal about what percentage of deaths are patients coming from some type of assisted living situation?
I recall it being about 1/3 in NY and that may have been true nationally as well.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 12:06 am to AtlantaLSUfan
quote:Whatever you do, please don’t listen to this guy. A big travel YouTuber (bald and bankrupt) had this mindset and almost died because of it. If you think you have it, get tested so you can start treatment as soon as possible.
Screw that. Will just be more numbers for the hysteria. This virus is weak, fight it off, stay home 2wks if you think you have it.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 12:44 am to tgr4ever
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so you can start treatment as soon as possible
Interesting. What is the treatment?
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