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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***
Posted on 7/14/20 at 7:05 am to tgr4ever
Posted on 7/14/20 at 7:05 am to tgr4ever
quote:Treatment:
Whatever you do, please don’t listen to this guy. A big travel YouTuber (bald and bankrupt) had this mindset and almost died because of it. If you think you have it, get tested so you can start treatment as soon as possible.
AKA stay at home and do nothing just like the guy said. Getting tested and being positive changes nothing on your “treatment” plan. They are simply still treating severity of symptoms.
This post was edited on 7/14/20 at 7:11 am
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Posted on 7/14/20 at 7:29 am to Kingpenm3
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Anyone have any info/data empirical or anecdotal about what percentage of deaths are patients coming from some type of assisted living situation?
Check out this guy's (Phil Kerpen) Google Docs spreadsheet.
His tally has it at 53% for the country as a whole.
New York is likely lying about their nursing home deaths so Cuomo can save face. They changed how they counted them midstream when they realized it was going to be a disaster. Believe they went from counting all folks that originated in a nursing home as a death, to only counting those that died AT the nursing home as a nursing home death. Meaning all the people that left the nursing home to go die in the hospital don't count as a nursing home death.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 7:29 am to tgr4ever
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YouTuber (bald and bankrupt) had this mindset
bullshite. Just watched his latest video, it was from a month ago and he was absolutely paranoid about the virus. Family that had not seen him in years celebrating his arrival, and he would not shake hands, hug the mom, or let them feed him. Would not even enter the property like they kept asking him to do. He just stood 6ft away and kept saying “I cant because Corona virus”. He was backing away from them.
These were people who lived so far in the wilderness it was an hour hike to get there.
This post was edited on 7/15/20 at 7:03 am
Posted on 7/14/20 at 7:57 am to Sasquatch Smash
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Meaning all the people that left the nursing home to go die in the hospital don't count as a nursing home death.
I can tell you facilities are making every effort to do this. Just to play devils advocate, death count in those few states where infected were pushed into long term care facilities probably skews that number in the other direction though.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 8:14 am to AmosMosesAndTwins
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I can tell you facilities are making every effort to do this.
Hmm. That's interesting. But why isn't it still counted as a LTC death? That's where they picked it up.
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Just to play devils advocate, death count in those few states where infected were pushed into long term care facilities probably skews that number in the other direction though.
Well, yeah, that's how it seeded all the LTC facilities. It should be noted and discussed, not hidden, as that was a huge policy blunder by anyone that did it.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 8:18 am to Sasquatch Smash
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But why isn't it still counted as a LTC death?
100% so long term care facilities can save face. Sad but true. Occupancy based business. “No Covid deaths” sells better.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 9:15 am to WaWaWeeWa
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No. Not at all.
It means two things:
1. The antibody studies are underestimating the true number of infections meaning it’s even less deadly.
2. Even if people get infected again it’s almost certainly going to be less severe and maybe not even noticeable at all. Unless someone is very sick or immune compromised, but that’s always true for many of different pathogens.
Antibodies not lasting very long is not necessarily a bad thing
Good points. DO we have any new, legit information on the potential for long-term effects? I keep seeing warnings about it, particularly for people who experienced mild illness. Is any of this information concerning at all?
Posted on 7/14/20 at 9:19 am to S1C EM
quote:You see no warnings from anyone or anything reputable about this
DO we have any new, legit information on the potential for long-term effects? I keep seeing warnings about it, particularly for people who experienced mild illness
quote:Not to me, or 99.99% pf rational thinkers with any basic knowledge of medicine. This virus is novel, but it isnt magical. A coronavirus respiratory strain that causes a mild illness isnt going to magically give you heart problems or give to life long diabetes etc that some crazy websites or studies say "might happen"
Is any of this information concerning at all?
It is prepostirous to really even entertain the idea
This post was edited on 7/14/20 at 9:21 am
Posted on 7/14/20 at 9:25 am to lsupride87
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Not to me, or 99.99% pf rational thinkers with any basic knowledge of medicine. This virus is novel, but it isnt magical. A coronavirus respiratory strain that causes a mild illness isnt going to magically give you heart problems or give to life long diabetes etc that some crazy websites or studies say "might happen"
It is prepostirous to really even entertain the idea
I don't disagree. I was only curious since we have seen the disease affect so many different organs and given the fact that the respiratory damage it causes is very distinct in a CT scan. I will have to assume people developing diabetes shortly thereafter was coincidental. Same with many of the neurological reports I've seen, given only a handful of people presented with the symptoms/conditions described.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 12:28 pm to lsupride87
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DO we have any new, legit information on the potential for long-term effects? I keep seeing warnings about it, particularly for people who experienced mild illness
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You see no warnings from anyone or anything reputable about this
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Not to me, or 99.99% pf rational thinkers with any basic knowledge of medicine. This virus is novel, but it isnt magical. A coronavirus respiratory strain that causes a mild illness isnt going to magically give you heart problems or give to life long diabetes etc that some crazy websites or studies say "might happen"
There is no more reputable source than Dr Larry Brilliant. SARS-2-CoV can attack almost every organ. Even people who were asymptomatic are showing really bad lung x-rays.
Larry Brilliant on How Well We Are Fighting Covid-19
Posted on 7/14/20 at 1:16 pm to S1C EM
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I will have to assume people developing diabetes shortly thereafter was coincidental.
Respiratory viruses can absolutely trigger autoimmune problems such as Type 1 diabetes. Although, I dont think there is any reason to think that it will be worse with COVID than with other viruses.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 1:27 pm to Whiznot
quote:And? Respiratory diseases have always been able to lead people to strokes(neuro), arrhythmias(heart), ARDS(Lung damage), etc etc
There is no more reputable source than Dr Larry Brilliant. SARS-2-CoV can attack almost every organ.
Once again this virus isnt magical. The thought of worrying about future complications on this grand scale from mild to moderate cases is ridiculous
This post was edited on 7/14/20 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 7/14/20 at 1:37 pm to lsupride87
Here are a couple of quotes from Dr. Brilliant.
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We have learned a tremendous amount about this virus, about how it infects people, how it kills, how it spreads, but the big surprise to me is the kind of pan-organ nature of its attack. It gives the lie to anybody who thought that a comparison with influenza was in the ballpark.
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This is a big fricking deal. If I would not be excommunicated from the world of science, I would call this an evil virus, but I can’t do that because I can’t impugn motives to it. But if I could, I would call it that. It’s certainly pernicious. This is the worst pandemic in our lifetime.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 1:38 pm to Whiznot
quote:That dude is a whack job man
Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***
Here are a couple of quotes from Dr. Brilliant.
quote:
We have learned a tremendous amount about this virus, about how it infects people, how it kills, how it spreads, but the big surprise to me is the kind of pan-organ nature of its attack. It gives the lie to anybody who thought that a comparison with influenza was in the ballpark.
quote:
This is a big fricking deal. If I would not be excommunicated from the world of science, I would call this an evil virus, but I can’t do that because I can’t impugn motives to it. But if I could, I would call it that. It’s certainly pernicious. This is the worst pandemic in our lifetime.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 2:10 pm to lsupride87
And what are your qualifications? I know his.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 2:12 pm to Whiznot
quote:A non whack job who doesnt think this is worse than a pandemic that killed 50 million people with an average age of death of 28
And what are your qualifications?
Posted on 7/14/20 at 2:16 pm to lsupride87
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A non whack job who doesnt think this is worse than a pandemic that killed 50 million people with an average age of death of 28
To be fair, I don't believe he's comparing this to 1918 Spanish Flu with that comment. He's 76...that's not within his or most of "our" lifetimes.
Also, anyone comparing this to 1918 Spanish Flu are, so far and will likely remain to be, quite moronic.
This post was edited on 7/14/20 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 7/14/20 at 2:19 pm to Sasquatch Smash
quote:He says this:
I don't believe he's comparing this to 1918 Spanish Flu with that comment
quote:The federal govt fricking hid the spanish flu for a while on purpose
And it is the first time we have had a pandemic in the United States in which we have had such a total, abysmal failure of our federal government.
That article is batshit crazy man. Read it
Posted on 7/14/20 at 2:21 pm to lsupride87
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That article is batshit crazy man. Read it
Ha...I read up to that point, then bailed because of that exact quote.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 2:24 pm to Whiznot
quote:From the CDC on flu complications: LINK
We have learned a tremendous amount about this virus, about how it infects people, how it kills, how it spreads, but the big surprise to me is the kind of pan-organ nature of its attack. It gives the lie to anybody who thought that a comparison with influenza was in the ballpark.
quote:
Flu Complications
Sinus and ear infections are examples of moderate complications from flu, while pneumonia is a serious flu complication that can result from either influenza virus infection alone or from co-infection of flu virus and bacteria. Other possible serious complications triggered by flu can include inflammation of the heart (myocarditis), brain (encephalitis) or muscle (myositis, rhabdomyolysis) tissues, and multi-organ failure (for example, respiratory and kidney failure).
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