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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***
Posted on 6/26/20 at 9:49 am to Funky Tide 8
Posted on 6/26/20 at 9:49 am to Funky Tide 8
quote:Its falling like a rock
Where are we at as far as death rate for this thing right now in the U.S.?
Went from almost 6%, to now 4.8 and still falling
And remember, this is just confirmed case mortality
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Posted on 6/26/20 at 9:53 am to jennBN
I think we definitely have evidence of immunity. There have been circulating antibodies for months after infection. How long those antibodies remain at effective levels is the next question.
The other variable is T cell immunity which is not tested for but we know it exists. Even if reinfection is possible at some unknown time in the future it may not be very severe at all due to T cell immunity even if antibodies are at a very low level.
The other variable is T cell immunity which is not tested for but we know it exists. Even if reinfection is possible at some unknown time in the future it may not be very severe at all due to T cell immunity even if antibodies are at a very low level.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:21 am to lsupride87
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Its falling like a rock
Went from almost 6%, to now 4.8 and still falling
And remember, this is just confirmed case mortality
With the uptick in cases in Florida, Georgia, Arizona, Texas, etc. (all the states that opened back up first), if we don't see a large spike in deaths there over the next week or two, covid is certainly in the rear view, right?
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:24 am to Eat Your Crow
Lack of deaths doesn’t mean lack of patients. It will be interesting to see how hospitals deal with the surges. They can’t afford to halt surgeries again.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:25 am to GeorgeTheGreek
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Lack of deaths doesn’t mean lack of patients
No, but I would certainly assume there is a big correlation between the two.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:34 am to Eat Your Crow
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With the uptick in cases in Florida, Georgia, Arizona, Texas, etc. (all the states that opened back up first)
"Spikes" can be explained by various factors, particularly testing hotspots and contact tracing. Context is always needed for case counts.
Re-opening is easy to point to, but I doubt it's the most important culprit.
Migrant farmworkers are on the move in a number of states seeing "spikes." (Areas south of the border are currently seeing their first wave.)
Links for a couple Google News searches:
Georgia
Florida
(One of the articles even discusses migrant workers all the way up in Michigan.)
Are they the only culprit? No, of course not. Should we care, be concerned, and ready to mitigate? Sure. But re-opening shouldn't be blamed as much as it has been, nor stopped.
This post was edited on 6/26/20 at 10:36 am
Posted on 6/26/20 at 12:26 pm to Sasquatch Smash
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BREAKING: #Florida posts 8,942 new #coronavirus cases–shattering its prior single-day record of 5,508 set 2 days ago.
#Florida is a #COVID19 hot zone.
@GovRonDesantis refuses to impose a statewide mask order but banned alcohol consumption at bars.
Why not just close the bars if you can't consume alcohol?
Posted on 6/26/20 at 12:28 pm to Sasquatch Smash
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But re-opening shouldn't be blamed as much as it has been, nor stopped.
Unfortunately, our msm tends to be monolithic in their reporting..
A mile wide and an inch deep...
Posted on 6/26/20 at 12:37 pm to klrstix
Harris Co, Houston, just issued a Stay Home order.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 12:45 pm to Wermanium
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Harris Co, Houston, just issued a Stay Home order.
Stay home orders don't work.
We need to let the virus work its way through the country.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 1:03 pm to Wermanium
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Harris Co, Houston, just issued a Stay Home order.
A completely unenforceable order because the Governor has the power. It’s a recommendation based on Dora moving Houston to threat level midnight
This post was edited on 6/26/20 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 6/26/20 at 1:25 pm to hehateme2285
Are they reporting the total number of tests given each day to correlate to these rise in positives?
Posted on 6/26/20 at 1:50 pm to GeauxWrek
There were only 296 new cases and 34 deaths in Italy yesterday after their disastrous situation in March and April. They have flattened the curve. Meanwhile in the US, there have been no curve. The line just continues to go up. We live in a country of moronic assholes.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 2:03 pm to GeauxWrek
Yes. The rise in cases is not simply a product of more testing.
Percent positives and hospitalization rates going up too
Percent positives and hospitalization rates going up too
Posted on 6/26/20 at 3:23 pm to Bench McElroy
More like a bunch of pussies who are afraid to get this over with.
So many people in this country who love to live in fear.
So many people in this country who love to live in fear.
This post was edited on 6/26/20 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 6/26/20 at 3:29 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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How long those antibodies remain at effective levels is the next question.
Exactly. We know they decrease over time but do we know if exposed 6 months later you are immune? I haven't seen much in terms of mutation so one would think the antibodies last, but has that been confirmed?
Posted on 6/26/20 at 3:34 pm to jennBN
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Exactly. We know they decrease over time but do we know if exposed 6 months later you are immune? I haven't seen much in terms of mutation so one would think the antibodies last, but has that been confirmed?
There isn’t really any way to confirm that. It’s a waiting game. No news is good news.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 3:51 pm to Bench McElroy
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Meanwhile in the US, there have been no curve. The line just continues to go up.
In the south. An area of the country that didn't really have it that bad until now.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 4:14 pm to GetCocky11
And only bad in cases.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 4:26 pm to GetCocky11
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In the south. An area of the country that didn't really have it that bad until now.
It's really the full Sunbelt, from the Carolinas to Southern California. In much of the country, warmer temperatures are slowing the spread. But in the Sunbelt, we're likely spending more time indoors than we did a couple of months ago, and AC lowers humidity (and humidity stops droplets).
But places like New Orleans, which had it really bad during the first wave, are not experiencing a second one.
That likely means that significant immunity exists in populations like NYC and New Orleans that had a bad first wave.
Obviously, I would prefer that people just wear masks indoors and we get rid of the virus, but I'm also not horribly concerned that this new outbreak will claim a lot of lives, as it seems to consist of mainly young people, who are not going to die in significant numbers.
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