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SloaneRanger
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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***
Will people ever be able to bring themselves to admit that Sweden got it right? Will be interesting to see how it plays out, but they may be done with this. Meanwhile, we have a lot of hysterical panic and talk of more shutdowns.
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Good stuff. Thanks for the update. This thread has gotten so much better, just sticking to the facts. We had some crazy days early on.


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Has anyone seen this? Very curious if this gets confirmed.

University of Barcelona finds COVID in March 2019 Wastewater sample from Barcelona
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Has anyone seen this? Very curious if this gets confirmed.



Yeah, someone started a thread about it last week.

I'd be highly suspicious of this result. They looked at 9 archival samples/days, I think, three from 2018 and six from 2019.

That one day in March was the only sample to "have" virus in it. Unless they test other days surrounding that one day or find it elsewhere in the year, I'd lean towards that being a false test for some reason.
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Ya, it seemed odd to me too. Thanks for the info.


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Does anyone believe Taiwan, a country of 25 million and one of the most densely populated areas in the world, has only had 500 cases of C19 with only 7 resulting in death?



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Does anyone believe Taiwan, a country of 25 million and one of the most densely populated areas in the world, has only had 500 cases of C19 with only 7 resulting in death?


I can believe it since it's an island. They aren't the only island that has done well.


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I can believe it since it's an island. They aren't the only island that has done well.




What does being on an island help with? Air flow maybe?


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What does being on an island help with? Air flow maybe?


Much easier to control one's border if one is an island.

I'm not sure how big of a deal being an island made for them in this case, but I'm sure being so close to China and being weary of their shenanigans from jump helped, as did previous experience with such outbreaks and cultural differences (less handshaking, wearing of masks as a population, etc.) helped.


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With asymptomatic spread, controlling a border should only have a minimal effect in my opinion. It is an interesting question.


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A new strain of flu which has the potential to become pandemic has been identified in China by scientists.

It emerged recently and is carried by pigs, but can infect humans, they say.

The researchers are concerned that it could mutate further so that it can spread easily from person to person, and trigger a global outbreak.


LINK


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Prof Kin-Chow Chang and colleagues who have been studying it, say it is one to keep an eye on.


Prof Kin Chow Chang can frick right off



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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***
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Does anyone believe Taiwan, a country of 25 million and one of the most densely populated areas in the world, has only had 500 cases of C19 with only 7 resulting in death?


Taiwan is one of the most transparent democracies on Earth. I believe their statistics. They also have been on top of COVID-19 from day one, partly because they knew they wouldn't receive help from anyone else. Honestly, their response is worth examining closely.

The zero deaths in Vietnam is probably a much more questionable statistic. But I suspect that Vietnam has had a solid response too, mainly because of the high level of mistrust between Vietnam and China right now.
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Taiwan, Japan et al not having had larger problems sure seems to support the theory that wearing masks does a lot more to curb spread than many people think.



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Regarding the cases in the US, how do thenother countries in that chart compare with testing??
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A new strain of flu which has the potential to become pandemic has been identified in China by scientists.

It emerged recently and is carried by pigs, but can infect humans, they say.

The researchers are concerned that it could mutate further so that it can spread easily from person to person, and trigger a global outbreak.


Not new. It's been around for a few years and can spread to humans from pigs. There are no reported cases of human-to-human spread. If it did start spreading in the human population then a vaccine for it can easily be made, since it's a known flu virus.


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Twenty 49
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Regarding the cases in the US, how do thenother countries in that chart compare with testing??


That's the obvious question, but who knows?

That's why the rate of hospitalization or death is more relevant.

People can come up with multiple potential explanations for why the deaths reported are not accurate (but, but , but, what about?). But even if you adjust the numbers some, our country is handily leading Canada and Europe in deaths per million.

Why? Greater rate of spread of the virus? More susceptible population of old, diabetic, etc.? More people in risky living/working conditions such as nursing homes, prisons, and factories? Worse healthcare? No idea. It's pretty crazy.





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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***
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People can come up with multiple potential explanations for why the deaths reported are not accurate (but, but , but, what about?). But even if you adjust the numbers some, our country is handily leading Canada and Europe in deaths per million.

Why? Greater rate of spread of the virus? More susceptible population of old, diabetic, etc.? More people in risky living/working conditions such as nursing homes, prisons, and factories? Worse healthcare? No idea. It's pretty crazy.


B/c the US is incredibly unhealthy. Hell, I bet only about 50% of the country can take a complete, full breath when not sick.


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Sasquatch Smash
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Another T-cell immunity preprint.

Last few lines of abstract:
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Importantly, SARS-CoV-2-specific T cells were detectable in antibody-seronegative family members and individuals with a history of asymptomatic or mild COVID-19. Our collective dataset shows that SARS-CoV-2 elicits robust memory T cell responses akin to those observed in the context of successful vaccines, suggesting that natural exposure or infection may prevent recurrent episodes of severe COVID-19 also in seronegative individuals.


More credence to antibody tests under-counting numbers infected.
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