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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***

Posted on 4/7/20 at 7:01 pm to
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85719 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 7:01 pm to
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200,000 dead.


That’s what that original model said, didn’t it?

This post was edited on 4/7/20 at 7:09 pm
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9611 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 7:02 pm to
quote:

Birx gave a stat that was eye opening... Not that coldn’t have figured it out, but

NYC 14/1000
New Orleans 3/1000
Most other cities 1/1000 or less

That is the infection rate... Seriously, that is it? As much that is going on, I would have guess it was at least 1-2/100 everywhere.



The stats of positive cases are really only a drop in the bucket compared to the people who have/had it.


In NYC, for example, I personally know about 30 people who certainly have/had it (all symptoms + almost all with close exposure to someone testing positive).
Of all those people, only 1 of those 30 would show up in the stats for positive cases because he was hospitalized. All the others were told to stay at home and were never tested.


Which is a good thing since all these people were never sick enough to go to the hospital and hopefully are now immune to quick reinfection.

Posted by Shaun176
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
3163 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 7:36 pm to
Multiple studies (China, italy, Iceland) have shown that there are at least 15 people who have it for every positive test. I would bet that it is higher in hot spot areas.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85719 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 7:44 pm to
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Multiple studies (China, italy, Iceland) have shown that there are at least 15 people who have it for every positive test.


Link to this data?
Posted by BillyBobfan24_7
R.I.P. SGT Nelson
Member since May 2004
18638 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 7:46 pm to


For some reason I cant get this image to post.

Cantrell LINK
Posted by Shaun176
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
3163 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 7:52 pm to
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Link to this data


Studies are on nature and lancet.
Posted by Unknown_Poster
Member since Jun 2013
5758 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:00 pm to
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One state that I didn’t realize is doing so bad is Connecticut. I think they’re projected the have the highest death rate per capita in the country. But it makes sense when you consider they’re pretty close to NY. And although they have a small population, it’s also a fairly high population density.

A lot of the wealthy that work in NYC live in Connecticut. There was also that infamous large party thrown by some elite that spread the virus to a ton of people.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79522 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:09 pm to
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79522 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:11 pm to
quote:

was also that infamous large party thrown by some elite that spread the virus to a ton of people.

or St Paddy's day


Probably the elite thing though, an Eyes Wide Shut probably makes more sense.
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124694 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:11 pm to
Unsure who disgust me more

Her, Broome or that nasty Chicago mayor
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79522 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:14 pm to
She has done a hell of a job getting her face into national media. I wish she showed that kind of committment to other areas of the job.
Posted by BillyBobfan24_7
R.I.P. SGT Nelson
Member since May 2004
18638 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:24 pm to
Thanks not sure what I was doing wrong.

Thought it was funny that the closed caption glitched with that up there about Carol Baskins. And then Cantrell came on. I figured you boys would love that.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53552 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 9:03 pm to
Again, grain of salt, but:





Posted by BenDover78
Member since Mar 2020
305 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 9:05 pm to
Forgive me if this has already been explained, but why is antibody testing so crucial here? Thanks in advance
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
72371 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 9:09 pm to
I believe because you can clearly tell who has recently contracted the virus and then produced the necessary antibodies to fight it off. Good in the immediate term for those wanting to go back to work/working in the medical field for sure.

I’m sure someone else can explain how to then extrapolate the benefits into the population better than I could ever hope to.
Posted by Kingpenm3
Xanadu
Member since Aug 2011
9961 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 9:11 pm to
And it takes 15 minutes.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21139 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 9:36 pm to
quote:

Forgive me if this has already been explained, but why is antibody testing so crucial here? Thanks in advance



There are several reasons:

* It will tell us how many asymtomatic people there are compared to those who had symptoms. This is important for several reasons:

It will tell us a lot about how the virus spreads. If a lot of people without symptoms are getting infected and passing the virus on to others, then simply telling people with fevers to stay home isn't going to stop the spread of the virus.

We can also analyze why some people get the virus and their bodies fight it off without them even experiencing symptoms. Understanding how and why that happens could help us find an effective treatment for COVID-19. We need to find enough of these people to learn what makes them different.

Knowing just how many asymptomatic people there are would also help us deal with the unlikely theory that a good chunk of the population has already made antibodies to the virus. In other words, vast swaths of people got it and basically felt nothing, and only a tiny fraction of people got sick from the virus. If this were true (it isn't), then we might be well on our way to building herd immunity, where enough people have contracted the virus that it dies off on its own.

* Identifying people who've already had the virus and recovered means that we can often put them back to work sooner. A nurse who's recovered from COVID-19 doesn't need a N95 mask. A barber could safely cut hair, etc. Of course, there are civil liberties issues here, but there's also potential to get our economy open faster.

* One of the most promising therapies for COVID-19 is convalescent plasma. This is a technique that we already use to treat a number of other diseases, so there's a reasonable chance that it could also work for this one. Basically, people who have recovered donate blood plasma, and people who have just become infected get an IV of it. Since an infected person would normally take days to start making antibodies, this would give the body a jumpstart in its fight against the virus. Clinical trials are underway right now, and if they're successful, then antibody tests will be very important to help us find enough donors.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21637 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:23 pm to
quote:

A team from Fudan University analysed blood samples from 175 patients discharged from the Shanghai Public Health Clinical Centre and found that nearly a third had unexpectedly low levels of antibodies.
In some cases, antibodies could not be detected at all.


LINK
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41731 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:24 pm to
There were reports a month ago about a few people in Japan and a couple of other places that tested positive again after recovering. fricking sucks if true.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40251 posts
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:28 pm to
Well shite.
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