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Posted on 4/7/20 at 7:02 pm to Lsut81
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Birx gave a stat that was eye opening... Not that coldn’t have figured it out, but
NYC 14/1000
New Orleans 3/1000
Most other cities 1/1000 or less
That is the infection rate... Seriously, that is it? As much that is going on, I would have guess it was at least 1-2/100 everywhere.
The stats of positive cases are really only a drop in the bucket compared to the people who have/had it.
In NYC, for example, I personally know about 30 people who certainly have/had it (all symptoms + almost all with close exposure to someone testing positive).
Of all those people, only 1 of those 30 would show up in the stats for positive cases because he was hospitalized. All the others were told to stay at home and were never tested.
Which is a good thing since all these people were never sick enough to go to the hospital and hopefully are now immune to quick reinfection.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 7:36 pm to wm72
Multiple studies (China, italy, Iceland) have shown that there are at least 15 people who have it for every positive test. I would bet that it is higher in hot spot areas.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 7:44 pm to Shaun176
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Multiple studies (China, italy, Iceland) have shown that there are at least 15 people who have it for every positive test.
Link to this data?
Posted on 4/7/20 at 7:46 pm to fightin tigers
Posted on 4/7/20 at 7:52 pm to Lsut81
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Link to this data
Studies are on nature and lancet.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:00 pm to 1BamaRTR
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One state that I didn’t realize is doing so bad is Connecticut. I think they’re projected the have the highest death rate per capita in the country. But it makes sense when you consider they’re pretty close to NY. And although they have a small population, it’s also a fairly high population density.
A lot of the wealthy that work in NYC live in Connecticut. There was also that infamous large party thrown by some elite that spread the virus to a ton of people.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:11 pm to Unknown_Poster
quote:or St Paddy's day
was also that infamous large party thrown by some elite that spread the virus to a ton of people.
Probably the elite thing though, an Eyes Wide Shut probably makes more sense.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:11 pm to fightin tigers
Unsure who disgust me more
Her, Broome or that nasty Chicago mayor
Her, Broome or that nasty Chicago mayor
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:14 pm to Walt OReilly
She has done a hell of a job getting her face into national media. I wish she showed that kind of committment to other areas of the job.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:24 pm to fightin tigers
Thanks not sure what I was doing wrong.
Thought it was funny that the closed caption glitched with that up there about Carol Baskins. And then Cantrell came on. I figured you boys would love that.
Thought it was funny that the closed caption glitched with that up there about Carol Baskins. And then Cantrell came on. I figured you boys would love that.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 9:03 pm to BillyBobfan24_7
Again, grain of salt, but:


Posted on 4/7/20 at 9:05 pm to TheCaterpillar
Forgive me if this has already been explained, but why is antibody testing so crucial here? Thanks in advance
Posted on 4/7/20 at 9:09 pm to BenDover78
I believe because you can clearly tell who has recently contracted the virus and then produced the necessary antibodies to fight it off. Good in the immediate term for those wanting to go back to work/working in the medical field for sure.
I’m sure someone else can explain how to then extrapolate the benefits into the population better than I could ever hope to.
I’m sure someone else can explain how to then extrapolate the benefits into the population better than I could ever hope to.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 9:11 pm to St Augustine
And it takes 15 minutes.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 9:36 pm to BenDover78
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Forgive me if this has already been explained, but why is antibody testing so crucial here? Thanks in advance
There are several reasons:
* It will tell us how many asymtomatic people there are compared to those who had symptoms. This is important for several reasons:
It will tell us a lot about how the virus spreads. If a lot of people without symptoms are getting infected and passing the virus on to others, then simply telling people with fevers to stay home isn't going to stop the spread of the virus.
We can also analyze why some people get the virus and their bodies fight it off without them even experiencing symptoms. Understanding how and why that happens could help us find an effective treatment for COVID-19. We need to find enough of these people to learn what makes them different.
Knowing just how many asymptomatic people there are would also help us deal with the unlikely theory that a good chunk of the population has already made antibodies to the virus. In other words, vast swaths of people got it and basically felt nothing, and only a tiny fraction of people got sick from the virus. If this were true (it isn't), then we might be well on our way to building herd immunity, where enough people have contracted the virus that it dies off on its own.
* Identifying people who've already had the virus and recovered means that we can often put them back to work sooner. A nurse who's recovered from COVID-19 doesn't need a N95 mask. A barber could safely cut hair, etc. Of course, there are civil liberties issues here, but there's also potential to get our economy open faster.
* One of the most promising therapies for COVID-19 is convalescent plasma. This is a technique that we already use to treat a number of other diseases, so there's a reasonable chance that it could also work for this one. Basically, people who have recovered donate blood plasma, and people who have just become infected get an IV of it. Since an infected person would normally take days to start making antibodies, this would give the body a jumpstart in its fight against the virus. Clinical trials are underway right now, and if they're successful, then antibody tests will be very important to help us find enough donors.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:23 pm to rds dc
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A team from Fudan University analysed blood samples from 175 patients discharged from the Shanghai Public Health Clinical Centre and found that nearly a third had unexpectedly low levels of antibodies.
In some cases, antibodies could not be detected at all.
LINK
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:24 pm to rds dc
There were reports a month ago about a few people in Japan and a couple of other places that tested positive again after recovering. fricking sucks if true.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:28 pm to rds dc
Well shite.
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