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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:31 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:31 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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There were reports a month ago about a few people in Japan and a couple of other places that tested positive again after recovering.
Yea, it's a story on a study from China. I have come to put little stock in anything out of China or based on data out of China. I'll wait until we see some supporting studies from other areas. One possibility, some of those people never had COVID19 in the 1st place, just happened to be sick, and got a false positive from some crappy Chinese test.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 10:40 pm to rds dc
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One possibility, some of those people never had COVID19 in the 1st place, just happened to be sick, and got a false positive from some crappy Chinese test.
Hopefully
Posted on 4/7/20 at 11:27 pm to JohnnyKilroy
For those keeping score at home, Spain passed Italy for deaths per capita.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 12:00 am to Volvagia
Many who have done an internship/residency in a major teaching hospital can sympathize with that feeling. Even without a pandemic, it eventually becomes a non-stop blur of suffering, fear and death, laced with constant fatigue, morbid humor and the risk of burned out apathy. It's been 40 years since I've read the book, but House of God seemed to capture the resulting sense of cynicism pretty well.
This post was edited on 4/8/20 at 12:04 am
Posted on 4/8/20 at 12:04 am to Volvagia
As my response to that Resident's rant, He look to the Hippocratic Oath with an understanding that this was a possibility within his educational and professional obligations.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 6:09 am to JohnnyKilroy
China is sending tests all over the world that don’t actually work. I don’t really trust that they tested correctly at home either. No clue what that sample size is that they are pulling from.
There were “re-infections” early that we’re shown to be the first time actually having covid
There were “re-infections” early that we’re shown to be the first time actually having covid
Posted on 4/8/20 at 6:32 am to upstate
I posted this on the Poli Board, but also good info for here.... Def leads to the questioning of true data out of China.
Taiwan kicked this things arse, however, the WHO won’t recognize them bc of China. Taiwan noticed it early and took precautions... only 348 cases and 5 deaths in a country of
24 million.
The interview is in link. Interesting to watch a puppet.
BBC
Now how it ties in to the HK reporter in the whitehouse
The Guardian
Taiwan kicked this things arse, however, the WHO won’t recognize them bc of China. Taiwan noticed it early and took precautions... only 348 cases and 5 deaths in a country of
24 million.
The interview is in link. Interesting to watch a puppet.
quote:
In the segment, Ms Tong asks if the WHO would reconsider letting Taiwan join the organisation. She is met with a long silence from Mr Aylward, who then says he cannot hear her and asks to move on to another question. Ms Tong presses him again, saying she would like to talk about Taiwan. At this point, Mr Aylward appears to hang up on her. When the journalist calls Mr Aylward again, she asks if he could comment on Taiwan's response to the coronavirus. Mr Aylward then replies: "Well, we've already talked about China." His last line appeared to mirror China's stance on Taiwan, which is that the island is a breakaway province. Taiwan, however, considers itself an independent country.
BBC
Now how it ties in to the HK reporter in the whitehouse
quote:
The Hong Kong government has accused a media organisation of “breaching the One-China principle” after a reporter asked a senior World Health Organisation (WHO) advisor a question about Taiwan during an interview. RTHK’s Yvonne Tong asked WHO advisor Bruce Aylward whether the organisation would reconsider Taiwan’s membership, long objected to by Beijing. Aylward appeared not to hear Tong, and then either hung up on her or was disconnected. On Thursday Hong Kong’s secretary for commerce and economic development, Edward Yau, accused RTHK of breaching its charter obligations which include “promoting understanding of the concept of ‘One Country, Two Systems’.”
The Guardian
Posted on 4/8/20 at 6:53 am to JohnnyKilroy
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There were reports a month ago about a few people in Japan and a couple of other places that tested positive again after recovering. fricking sucks if true.
If this is true, there will never be a vaccine.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 7:22 am to JohnnyKilroy
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There were reports a month ago about a few people in Japan and a couple of other places that tested positive again after recovering. fricking sucks if true.
Wonder what kind of test they used. And when they retested.
Our county strongly discourages repeat testing at all. Says it is uses up valuable testing resources. People positive for COViD can return to work 7 days after a positive test or 72 hours after acute symptoms have resolved, whichever is longer. Also....we use PCR testing....which is very sensitive and just picks up presence of the virus. The test picks up any presence of virus live or dead.
On our weekly county call yesterday it was mentioned the virus could still be present in your nasal passages for 3 weeks (you are no longer infectious to others though) so that is another reason why you shouldn’t retest.
But this is what my county is doing. Every state and county/parish will be different.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 7:28 am to lsunurse
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People positive for COViD can return to work 7 days after a positive test or 72 hours after acute symptoms have resolved
Interesting. Is coughing not considered acute, because most people continue to cough for weeks. That’s true even of a common upper respiratory infection.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 7:31 am to S1C EM
Georgia’s numbers on the health data site dropped considerably overnight. Listed a 700+ ICU bed shortage at 10:00pm last night; now down under 300. And a 400 drop on vents required. That said, their graph is weird. It doesn’t show an ICU bed shortage at all and didn’t last night, either (unless their legend is mixed up).
Posted on 4/8/20 at 7:33 am to S1C EM
Not sure. I’m sure my employee health department knows all the specifics on that one.
Btw....that national stockpile.....many of the items from it (PPE) are 10 years old. Our county received a small allotment from it and were told ok to use...just not on actual surgery cases.
Btw....that national stockpile.....many of the items from it (PPE) are 10 years old. Our county received a small allotment from it and were told ok to use...just not on actual surgery cases.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 7:46 am to lsunurse
Interesting. I’m still trying to figure out if the lady that tried to sneak herself in to be seen at my wife’s office 13 days post positive test was still contagious. I assume she was likely not, but she was definitely still coughing.
And here’s hoping the national stockpile gets a complete overhaul after this. That stuff should be on a regular refresh schedule with supplies being donated out to areas of need as they near a certain age.
And here’s hoping the national stockpile gets a complete overhaul after this. That stuff should be on a regular refresh schedule with supplies being donated out to areas of need as they near a certain age.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 8:02 am to S1C EM
Haha why are there so many twats in this thread... the serial downvoters are ridiculous.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 8:44 am to Lsut81
Louisiana projections slightly worse, but the US overall WAY better. This is a great story. The data is stabilizing and we are getting better models.


Posted on 4/8/20 at 8:53 am to TheCaterpillar
Can someone with more knowledge on the communication of the virus weigh-in on this article and projections in it?
Williamson County projections
Seems very extreme / hyperbolic. No where near an expert and have mainly been periodically lurking in this thread, but those numbers seem drastic and saying a peak will occur in mid-May to June seems unfounded given how far removed that is from quarantine mandates.
Williamson County projections
Seems very extreme / hyperbolic. No where near an expert and have mainly been periodically lurking in this thread, but those numbers seem drastic and saying a peak will occur in mid-May to June seems unfounded given how far removed that is from quarantine mandates.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 8:58 am to TheCaterpillar
I don’t think that the 4/5 deaths for Louisiana is right — want to say it’s still under 600?
Posted on 4/8/20 at 8:59 am to mmill32
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Can someone with more knowledge on the communication of the virus weigh-in on this article and projections in it?
Williamson County projections
Seems very extreme / hyperbolic. No where near an expert and have mainly been periodically lurking in this thread, but those numbers seem drastic and saying a peak will occur in mid-May to June seems unfounded given how far removed that is from quarantine mandates.
There are 550,000 people in Williamson Co, Texas. I think those numbers are probably higher than reality, but they're not outrageous. I'm guessing that judge got them from the upper band of the models instead of the middle.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 9:01 am to tiger91
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I don’t think that the 4/5 deaths for Louisiana is right — want to say it’s still under 600?
You may be misreading.
Their release on 4/5 said that would be the total death count in Louisiana when this is all over. Not how many deaths there would be by 4/5.
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