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re: Constitutional lawyers : Is Walmart demand to show receipt legal?

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Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:08 pm to
You are about as dumb as a bucket of snot......
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:08 pm to
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My point is I do not have a constitutional obligation to prove I did not commit a crime. If another party believes I did they must prove the offense.

I believe stores have the right to detain and interrogate someone accused of a crime as long as that person has an avenue to walk away and is not being held against their will.

If they are not accusing someone of a crime they have no right to demand to see a receipt.


You understand nothing.

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If they are not accusing someone of a crime they have no right to demand to see a receipt.


Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:08 pm to
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I told the officer that demanding to see my receipt was a violation of my constitutional rights and walked off. He did not try to detain me.


Lolwut
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88463 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:08 pm to
Checking every receipt is not a “random” stop. It’s pretty similar to the metal detectors at sporting events. No one is absolved so it’s not some profiling issue.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
72492 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:08 pm to
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There is tremendous overreach on display everywhere by the government and state governors, but you want to start shite with some min wage part time worker at Wallyworld?


Thread.
Posted by LSUtiger89
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
4750 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:09 pm to
The constitutional law really applies to government and government oversight. Not private business. You are trying to make an argument for constitutional rights when Really that has nothing to do with private business policy. Walmart has every right in their policy to ask to see the receipt. Really if they were smart they would just say that every person that refuses to show the receipt is a suspect if theft and then it would be in the constitutional right of the police to detain and search.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:09 pm to
Stop stealing.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:09 pm to
quote:


Thank you for asking and not making a stupid and snarky comment. My point is I do not have a constitutional obligation to prove I did not commit a crime. If another party believes I did they must prove the offense.

I believe stores have the right to detain and interrogate someone accused of a crime as long as that person has an avenue to walk away and is not being held against their will.

If they are not accusing someone of a crime they have no right to demand to see a receipt.



You have no constitutional right to patronize a private business and not abide by their internal policies. You should shop somewhere else if you don't want to show your receipt to the person at the door leaving Wal Mart.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216685 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:10 pm to
Fact.........
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27902 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:10 pm to
quote:

You have no constitutional right to patronize a private business and not abide by their internal policies. You should shop somewhere else if you don't want to show your receipt to the person at the door leaving Wal Mart.


Not to mention, as so many have mentioned and the OP has yet to acknowledge, the CONSTITUTION DOES NOT APPLY TO PRIVATE BUSINESSES.
Posted by Brosephine
Member since Aug 2016
252 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:11 pm to
Watch out we got a badass over here!

You sure showed them!

It’s Walmarks....get over yourself.
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
13261 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:12 pm to
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Really if they were smart they would just say that every person that refuses to show the receipt is a suspect if theft and then it would be in the constitutional right of the police to detain and search.


Yes they could and would face multiple claims of false detention and/ or false arrest.
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:12 pm to
quote:

Thank you for asking and not making a stupid and snarky comment. My point is I do not have a constitutional obligation to prove I did not commit a crime. If another party believes I did they must prove the offense.

I believe stores have the right to detain and interrogate someone accused of a crime as long as that person has an avenue to walk away and is not being held against their will.

If they are not accusing someone of a crime they have no right to demand to see a receipt.


Walmart has more of a right to ask for your receipt than you do to not show it.
Posted by DevilDagNS
Member since Dec 2017
3025 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:13 pm to
Its a private business engaging in loss prevention, which in turn keeps their costs lower. The constitution has nothing to do with any of this. Its a fricking receipt. STFU or go somewhere else douche.

Should any Wal Mart employee have touched you or detained you, no. Should they have called the police and let them do it since you exhibited behavior that may lead them to believe you were stealing, absolutely.
This post was edited on 5/7/20 at 1:15 pm
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27902 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:13 pm to
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Yes they could and would face multiple claims of false detention and/ or false arrest.


No. No they wouldn't.
Posted by blueridgeTiger
Granbury, TX
Member since Jun 2004
22416 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:13 pm to
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tigersbb


I'm guessing you've never read the Constitution.
Posted by GoHoGsGo06
Member since Nov 2006
5739 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:14 pm to
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Surely the aggregate they spend on employing those people nationwide is more than what they save on preventing loss due to theft.
negative
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
13261 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:14 pm to
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ot to mention, as so many have mentioned and the OP has yet to acknowledge, the CONSTITUTION DOES NOT APPLY TO PRIVATE BUSINESSES.


Really? So segragationists can put their whites only signs back up,huh?
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:15 pm to
The dumbass OP is how you end up having to get shite like soap and razors out of a fricking locked case in places like Walmart and Walgreens.
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
49636 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:15 pm to
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Not to mention, as so many have mentioned and the OP has yet to acknowledge, the CONSTITUTION DOES NOT APPLY TO PRIVATE BUSINESSES.




That concept is foreign to so many. It's embarrassing. Same as the concept of the "my rights". People don't understand that exercising your "rights" can still have results you may not like.
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