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Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:08 pm to tigersbb
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My point is I do not have a constitutional obligation to prove I did not commit a crime. If another party believes I did they must prove the offense.
I believe stores have the right to detain and interrogate someone accused of a crime as long as that person has an avenue to walk away and is not being held against their will.
If they are not accusing someone of a crime they have no right to demand to see a receipt.
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If they are not accusing someone of a crime they have no right to demand to see a receipt.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:08 pm to tigersbb
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I told the officer that demanding to see my receipt was a violation of my constitutional rights and walked off. He did not try to detain me.
Lolwut
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:08 pm to Salmon
Checking every receipt is not a “random” stop. It’s pretty similar to the metal detectors at sporting events. No one is absolved so it’s not some profiling issue.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:08 pm to tigerinthebueche
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There is tremendous overreach on display everywhere by the government and state governors, but you want to start shite with some min wage part time worker at Wallyworld?
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:09 pm to tigersbb
The constitutional law really applies to government and government oversight. Not private business. You are trying to make an argument for constitutional rights when Really that has nothing to do with private business policy. Walmart has every right in their policy to ask to see the receipt. Really if they were smart they would just say that every person that refuses to show the receipt is a suspect if theft and then it would be in the constitutional right of the police to detain and search.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:09 pm to tigersbb
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Thank you for asking and not making a stupid and snarky comment. My point is I do not have a constitutional obligation to prove I did not commit a crime. If another party believes I did they must prove the offense.
I believe stores have the right to detain and interrogate someone accused of a crime as long as that person has an avenue to walk away and is not being held against their will.
If they are not accusing someone of a crime they have no right to demand to see a receipt.
You have no constitutional right to patronize a private business and not abide by their internal policies. You should shop somewhere else if you don't want to show your receipt to the person at the door leaving Wal Mart.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:10 pm to lsu2006
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You have no constitutional right to patronize a private business and not abide by their internal policies. You should shop somewhere else if you don't want to show your receipt to the person at the door leaving Wal Mart.
Not to mention, as so many have mentioned and the OP has yet to acknowledge, the CONSTITUTION DOES NOT APPLY TO PRIVATE BUSINESSES.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:11 pm to tigersbb
Watch out we got a badass over here!
You sure showed them!
It’s Walmarks....get over yourself.
You sure showed them!
It’s Walmarks....get over yourself.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:12 pm to LSUtiger89
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Really if they were smart they would just say that every person that refuses to show the receipt is a suspect if theft and then it would be in the constitutional right of the police to detain and search.
Yes they could and would face multiple claims of false detention and/ or false arrest.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:12 pm to tigersbb
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Thank you for asking and not making a stupid and snarky comment. My point is I do not have a constitutional obligation to prove I did not commit a crime. If another party believes I did they must prove the offense.
I believe stores have the right to detain and interrogate someone accused of a crime as long as that person has an avenue to walk away and is not being held against their will.
If they are not accusing someone of a crime they have no right to demand to see a receipt.
Walmart has more of a right to ask for your receipt than you do to not show it.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:13 pm to tigersbb
Its a private business engaging in loss prevention, which in turn keeps their costs lower. The constitution has nothing to do with any of this. Its a fricking receipt. STFU or go somewhere else douche.
Should any Wal Mart employee have touched you or detained you, no. Should they have called the police and let them do it since you exhibited behavior that may lead them to believe you were stealing, absolutely.
Should any Wal Mart employee have touched you or detained you, no. Should they have called the police and let them do it since you exhibited behavior that may lead them to believe you were stealing, absolutely.
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:13 pm to tigersbb
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Yes they could and would face multiple claims of false detention and/ or false arrest.
No. No they wouldn't.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:13 pm to tigersbb
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tigersbb
I'm guessing you've never read the Constitution.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:14 pm to Crimson
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Surely the aggregate they spend on employing those people nationwide is more than what they save on preventing loss due to theft.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:14 pm to AbitaFan08
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ot to mention, as so many have mentioned and the OP has yet to acknowledge, the CONSTITUTION DOES NOT APPLY TO PRIVATE BUSINESSES.
Really? So segragationists can put their whites only signs back up,huh?
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:15 pm to GoHoGsGo06
The dumbass OP is how you end up having to get shite like soap and razors out of a fricking locked case in places like Walmart and Walgreens.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:15 pm to AbitaFan08
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Not to mention, as so many have mentioned and the OP has yet to acknowledge, the CONSTITUTION DOES NOT APPLY TO PRIVATE BUSINESSES.
That concept is foreign to so many. It's embarrassing. Same as the concept of the "my rights". People don't understand that exercising your "rights" can still have results you may not like.
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