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re: Climate Change Question...not regarding man made or natural cycles...

Posted on 10/9/24 at 10:51 am to
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
34493 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 10:51 am to
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sidewalkside


Question, can you stop making stupid threads?
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
9829 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 10:58 am to
Well, we know from ice samples that we have the hottest oceans we've had in a very long time right now. Oddly, that change has occurred rapidly over the past 100-150 years. Not sure what would drive a change which used to take thousands of years to occur in less than two centuries....weird.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
26909 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 11:00 am to
Yes, climate is always changing… There'once an Ice Age on earth so what happened with that?
This post was edited on 10/9/24 at 7:56 pm
Posted by sidewalkside
rent free in yo head
Member since Sep 2021
4343 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 11:01 am to
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Show me your data.


You're one of those "do the research" guys huh?
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71806 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 11:05 am to
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Data have shown that this is not necessarily the case. Maybe it's because more people are living in areas affected by extreme weather (like hurricanes) exaggerating its impact. Pretty much no one lived in Florida until the 20th century now it's the third most populous state behind California and Texas.

I will tell you one thing, eventually someone in this thread will get around to bringing up "billion dollar disasters". NOAA keeps a list, and there is a whole lot of frickery going on with it. They've gone on a media blitz about billion dollar disasters being on the rise and such. They've been questioned as to their data and their methodology. They have refused to answer those questions, and have now ended up in front of a congressional hearing for their troubles.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135663 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 11:09 am to
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"Extreme weather events"
Like the Dust Bowl?


The 1935 Labor Day Hurricane?


The 1922 Knickerbocker Storm?

Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135663 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 11:13 am to
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You're one of those "do the research" guys huh?
Be one of those guys. Look up the Quaternary Period relative to climate change and relative to history of terrestrial temperature preceding it.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
62739 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 11:16 am to
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I will tell you one thing, eventually someone in this thread will get around to bringing up "billion dollar disasters".



They've been here before, but generally disappear when you point out the fact that more people are living in coastal and flood-prone areas were they and their property are subject to the violent forces of nature.
Posted by Warfox
B.R. Native (now in MA)
Member since Apr 2017
3764 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 11:20 am to
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Its both.

However, the doomsday prophets of climate change have filled our heads with so many fairy tales that havent come true, they have become their own worst enemy.


Additionally, I'm far more concerned about the effects of all the plastics and other chemical pollution that is destroying our oceans, than boogey-man CO2.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
13520 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 11:26 am to
You’re a dumbass. We’ve exploded hundreds, if not thousands of atomic and hydrogen bombs in testing, and the cumulative impact was not measurable on “the climate,” but the Krakatoa eruption in 1883 cooled the entire goddamn planet by more than 2F.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
133470 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 11:28 am to
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Extreme weather events" (I know this is a loaded term) are happening more frequently



Are they though? More frequently than when?
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
58514 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 11:30 am to
The crazy thing is that before the colonizers showed up and started destroying the environment there’s no record of hurricanes ever happening here


Bigots will say it’s because native Americans never developed a system of writing but the real reason is climate change
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41694 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 11:30 am to
And the recent Hunga Tonga released a metric-shite-ton of gasses and water vapor into the atmosphere.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71806 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 11:41 am to
For anyone interested in the frickery of the NOAA billion dollar disaster archive/list this is a good look at the most glaring problems.
LINK
Posted by turkish
Member since Aug 2016
2270 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 11:42 am to
Define “changing.”

By some definitions, it’s always been “changing.”
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
13486 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 11:42 am to
Hurricane Camile devastated Virginia with floods.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 11:44 am to
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Extreme weather events" (I know this is a loaded term) are happening more frequently


Wrong.


Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41474 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 11:59 am to
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Extreme weather events" (I know this is a loaded term) are happening more frequently


Are they?
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
40683 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 12:00 pm to
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Can we at least agree the climate is changing?


It’s called weather. Changes every day
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
42739 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 12:03 pm to
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I think the extreme part is more to do with media hype and people being softer than in the past. Plus increased development leads to more damage for the same intensity of past storms.



Also consider that we use primarily satellite data when discussing storms out in the mid atlantice. We have record numbers of storms but also have storms that spinup and die without ever impacting land, many of those would not have been categorized 100 years ago and not detected at all 400 or more years ago.

We are drawing some conclusions on inadequate data when we say things like worst or most active ever without adding the caveat of since we have been using modern equipment.
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