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re: Citing disease risk to tribe, group urges halt to hunt for dead American

Posted on 11/26/18 at 9:40 pm to
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 11/26/18 at 9:40 pm to
A family who lived near me growing up had two sons close to my age and had a son that was older (6 or 7 years). When he graduated from HS he went on some type of missionary and was killed.

This was somewhere in South America, but it took months for them to get his body back. I was in middle school when this happened and don't remember the details, but I want to say they had to wait so long to make sure the body didn't have any type of diseases.

I am not sure if this is the case in this situation, but it's sad that these people believe it is their job to go around and spread "the word". Some of them believe people have to be introduced to Jesus and be saved and that at some point everyone will have an opportunity to be saved because being saved is how you get to heaven.

That just isn't realistic. I don't know why churches send these people on these missionary trips.
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 11/26/18 at 9:53 pm to
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Does he even have insta?


I guess you could ask at the next meeting.
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
21808 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 10:01 pm to
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In the spring of 1974, a National Geographic film crew came to the island, in what was one of the most unsuccessful expeditions made on the island. North Sentinel was visited by a team of anthropologists filming a documentary, Man in Search of Man. The team was accompanied by armed police officers and a National Geographic photographer. When the motorized boat broke through the barrier reefs, locals emerged from the jungle. The Sentinelese responded with a curtain of arrows. The boat landed at a point on the coast out of range of the arrows and the police (dressed in jackets with padded armour) landed and left gifts in the sand: a miniature plastic car, some coconuts, a live pig tied, a doll, and aluminium cookware.[14] The policemen returned to the boat and waited to see the locals' reaction to the gifts. The reaction was to launch another round of arrows, one of which struck the documentary's director in the left thigh. The man who wounded the director withdrew and laughed proudly, sitting in the shade while others speared, then buried, the pig and the doll. Afterwards, everyone left, taking with them only the coconuts and aluminium cookware.


From a 4chan thread I read.
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 11/26/18 at 10:04 pm to
Why should we care about how it should affect a tribe of savages who murdered this kid and have done it before.
Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
8691 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 10:06 pm to
If they only knew how fortunate they were to get Magnalite before the quality decreased.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 11/26/18 at 10:07 pm to
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People don’t care about the people per se but the fact that there’s a group of people who are literally a living relic. They’re what’s we used to be, once that’s wiped out there’s no getting it back. It’s not because muh Christians, it’s because most people desire to preserve something so unique in tact and untarnished.
lol no. Most people care what the news and the internet tell them to care about.

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They aren’t murders unless that what they see themselves as, you’re applying your 2018 western world morals to what amounts to a prehistoric group of people.
Cool, can we put the confederate statues back up now? Slavery wasn’t wrong because slave owners didn’t think it was.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122525 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 10:15 pm to
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Why should we care about how it should affect a tribe of savages who murdered this kid and have done it before.




Are they savages or did they kill the "kid" in self defense? They can be exposed to diseases they are not immune to. It's their land and they can live how they want. They have never been exposed to the "new way" of life. It sucks. Someone was killed, but people shouldn't naively go to places they have no idea about.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
26967 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 10:21 pm to
Last hope is to send Kevin Costner over there.

50-200 people on an island with no TV. No thanks. It is extremely fascinating though and studying them from afar could probably teach us a lot about early populations.
Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
8691 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 10:30 pm to
It looks like when this guy took an expedition there in the 60s, they hid the entire time. The expedition walked around their huts and took some of their stuff. The next time they came back, they fought any attempts to come on the island.

LINK
This post was edited on 11/26/18 at 10:32 pm
Posted by LSUButt
Lowcountry
Member since Jan 2006
16020 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 10:37 pm to
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You’d probably still fail is what sucks about it


I'm sorry, but there is no chance they could fend off even 10 guys with pistols and those guys had some type of riot armor.

I think it is FASCINATING to learn about their culture. I don't want to necessarily kill them, but I want to learn every single thing about them. Excavate their entire island and no telling the insane shite you will find.

This island has blown my mind and I want to see EVERYTHING under those trees
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
24878 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 10:38 pm to
The “kid” bribed his way onto the island, was shot with arrows (but tried to contact them again), his boat was attacked (but still tried again to contact them), and then was killed. He was dumbass.

They were defending their land.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
26967 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 10:43 pm to
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The “kid” bribed his way onto the island, was shot with arrows (but tried to contact them again), his boat was attacked (but still tried again to contact them), and then was killed.

It's hard to believe that there are people out there that are this dumb and hardheaded. They gave him plenty of warnings. Some people you can't help.
Posted by PhiTiger1764
Lurker since Aug 2003
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 11/26/18 at 10:55 pm to
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Are they savages

prehistoric human: ..........
non pre historic human: *exists*
prehistoric human: death by arrows
This post was edited on 11/26/18 at 10:56 pm
Posted by tider04
North Carolina
Member since Oct 2007
5606 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 11:27 pm to
Why should it be illegal to go this island? If they are so susceptible to diseases, then they should learn to use modern medicine to stay alive like the rest of the world. Is keeping them in isolation, running around eating rats and living in huts like animals, the kindest thing for humanity to do for them? If you were them, wouldn’t you want to know what else was out there? This guy wasn’t trying to harm them, he was doing what was the most loving thing in his mind. And he was willing to sacrifice his life to do it. Kid had more balls than every critic on this thread combined.

Oh, and this tribe murdered an innocent person. We just gonna ignore that? He didn't come in aggressively or with a threatening posture. If some dude walks on my land trying to be kind to me, I can’t just kill the dude because I don’t like him or think he may give me a deadly cold. Go study the life of Jim Elliot. The tribe he went to is grateful he went, even though it cost him his life.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 11:56 pm to
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I got caught up reading about this tribe too. Apparently they’ve lived there for 55,000 years and there are only 50-200 of them on the island. Crazy that they’ve survived this long without being wiped out.


The biggest question I have is, how is Christianity/God/Jesus/Bible real if these people have been there for 55,000 years and don't know about it/don't care about it?!? And they killed a Christian missionary for Christ sake!!

Honest question here, help me out people.

Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
8691 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:05 am to
The Jim Elliott story isn't really a unique one. One of the tribesmen got caught with a girl and they didn't have an escort. He lied and said they had to flee their escort becsuse the missionaries attacked them. The tribe wiped out the missionaries in what they saw as an act of revenge.

That story is one which has played itself out over and over again throughout history.
Posted by Pectus
Internet
Member since Apr 2010
67302 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 4:49 am to
The point of the mission was to share that with the tribe.


Why is that hard to understand?
Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 4:55 am to
Posted by GeauxPhillies26
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2014
167 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 5:05 am to
They don't know what a missionary is. It's not in their mind that usually missionaries have good intentions. They probably can't even fathom what the rest of the world is like. All they saw was a strange intruder trying to enter their land. They protected themselves, just like they've been doing for 55,000 years.
Posted by 3deadtrolls
lafayette
Member since Jan 2014
7069 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 7:24 am to
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The next day, they sunk his canoe and he was able to swim out to the boat that brought him, escaping. He went back the third day and was successful in his third attempt at suicide.

His writings said he knew he would not live and not to search for his body.



So the dude committed suicide in the name of Jesus.
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