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re: Car Shortage is Nuts
Posted on 6/1/22 at 10:41 am to SingleMalt1973
Posted on 6/1/22 at 10:41 am to SingleMalt1973
If they eliminated half of the stupid creature comforts, they could fill the lots again.
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 11:10 am to SingleMalt1973
Pretty much every car is sold before it hits the lot. Dealers are typically asking for a $500 refundable deposit to discourage you from shopping around for cars that can be delivered more quickly. The worst dealerships are requiring a non-refundable deposit in the hopes that you are desperate enough and find another car sooner.
Meanwhile, people are using this as an opportunity to trade-in cars with bad histories and getting top dollar.
At least I don’t feel like I’m getting taken advantage of when I’m paying more than MSRP because everyone is paying the same bad amount.
Meanwhile, people are using this as an opportunity to trade-in cars with bad histories and getting top dollar.
At least I don’t feel like I’m getting taken advantage of when I’m paying more than MSRP because everyone is paying the same bad amount.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 11:21 am to SingleMalt1973
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Took my car in for service today and the dealer has one car on the lot (Acura Dealer). Spoke to salesman I bought last 2 cars from, He says they can get them but it’s a 3-6 month wait time. I didn’t ask about how much over MSRP they charged. He also said there is no sign of it letting up over the next year or so.
I bought an Acura MDX Type S earlier this year. I was on a waitlist for months. I paid MSRP plus $2,500 which is disgusting but I ordered the thing. I noticed a DFW dealership with F 150 Raptors available all with a 40K markup (125K). Nobody is getting any deals now unless they are getting an ugly arse nondescript sedan nobody really wants.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 11:26 am to SingleMalt1973
My wifes Honda got totaled in November of last year, and we just got the car we ordered in January. Got it from Sellers in Gonzales. They did not charge us over the sticker price. So that was at least good. Everyone else was 4-8 grand over sticker.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 11:27 am to teke184
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this is a horrible time to buy unless you desperately need one.
BINGO
Posted on 6/1/22 at 11:37 am to SingleMalt1973
Reminds me of pics of food/product line in Russia and Eastern Europe pre Berlin Wall falling…..
Posted on 6/1/22 at 11:38 am to SingleMalt1973
We were looking at buying a 3 row SUV.
We can’t even find a GMC dealer around us with a Yukon to test drive. Toyota, Chevy, and Ford all have the same problem.
Jeep is the only one with any inventory.
We can’t even find a GMC dealer around us with a Yukon to test drive. Toyota, Chevy, and Ford all have the same problem.
Jeep is the only one with any inventory.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 11:46 am to sweetwaterbilly
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I ordered a new F-150 in February and finally got the email that it's scheduled to be built next week. I don't think it'll arrive until August/September.
I went to the Chevy dealership and they had a steady line of Silverados coming in. I ended up getting one of those because that's what I've always driven and I got impatient waiting for the Ford.
Issues are still very real but most carmakers have gotten closer to resolving the microchip problem. They absolutely can’t scale up to handle pent up demand, but they are building and shipping cars.
Unfortunately Ford is much farther behind, likely because of their most popular models being redesigned recently and their procurement practices. The lead time for their vehicles are sometimes insane right now, and I know their dealers are frustrated when buyers are told that 12-18 week waits are common.
That means that a lot of Ford buyers are now buying from various competitors and increasing demand there too. Which means our local Chevy, GMC, VW, and Toyota dealer are very picked over despite getting regular shipments. And they seem to have no problem selling anything - even the stripped down models.
This post was edited on 6/1/22 at 11:49 am
Posted on 6/1/22 at 11:51 am to LegendInMyMind
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this is a horrible time to buy unless you desperately need one.
Used car prices are insane too. So trades are getting top dollar.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 11:53 am to SingleMalt1973
Some guy totaled my wife's car (no pics) a little over a month ago. Insurance gave us $8k more for the total loss than we paid for the car.
Went to find a replacement and one like hers would be Sept before any availability. Went with another model and got one after a 4 week wait and had to pay sticker.
Here's the kicker, all new cars are actually cheaper than the 1-2 yr old used ones on the lot.
Went to find a replacement and one like hers would be Sept before any availability. Went with another model and got one after a 4 week wait and had to pay sticker.
Here's the kicker, all new cars are actually cheaper than the 1-2 yr old used ones on the lot.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 11:55 am to DevilDagNS
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Had a car totaled in February. Took me almost three months to find a replacement. I called every dealer in the state and everyone gave basically two options - either reserve one already on the dealer's build sheet which would be 8-12 week delivery, or order exactly what I wanted and would be 6-8 month delivery- maybe
Yep. Mine was totaled in March and did the same deal. I am fortunate that my best friend works at the dealership, so he got me on one of the cars they had being built, but it still took 2 months. The build got delayed a couple fo times.
I also hear dealerships are letting people walk if they don't finance through them. I was buying my vehicle in cash since the insurance gave me a ton of money for it. Wonder if they'd have let me buy it outright like that if I wasn't best friends with the dealer.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 12:00 pm to SingleMalt1973
Has anyone who has USAA auto insurance bought a car through them recently?
If so, was it a better buy?
If so, was it a better buy?
Posted on 6/1/22 at 12:03 pm to SingleMalt1973
What are chances there is a truck nut shortage?
Posted on 6/1/22 at 12:08 pm to SingleMalt1973
Yep, the shortage is deliberate. Part of the war on fossil fuel. The climate change commie loonytoons want us all driving electric cars and eating tofu.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 12:23 pm to Gaston
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All by design.
A conspiracy of this magnitude requires unfathomable human alignment and coordination.
From experience, working in one of the world's largest companies who can influence, if not, directly benefit from such a conspiracy...hand over heart I can say that getting alignment just within a department or a region of the world, across a matrix organization, much less enterprise-wide and globally, is next to impossible. And a company of this size is but a drop in the bucket on the world's supply chain stage.
Superstitious behavior...see Skinner for some elements of why and how the conspiracy brain works.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 12:29 pm to sweetwaterbilly
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ordered a new F-150 in February and finally got the email that it's scheduled to be built next week. I don't think it'll arrive until August/September. I went to the Chevy dealership and they had a steady line of Silverados coming in. I ended up getting one of those because that's what I've always driven and I got impatient waiting for the Ford.
Did you not have to put a deposit on the order?
Posted on 6/1/22 at 12:32 pm to teke184
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car which is considered reliable forever
Impossible to kill either
Posted on 6/1/22 at 12:44 pm to BigGreenTiger
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have gotten a few emails from dealers asking if I am willing to sell my Land Cruiser. Absolutely not.
I have a 2018 F-150 Platinum and my dealer offered me damn near what I paid for it four years ago. The problem is they don't have anything to replace it with.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 1:00 pm to tketaco
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Once everything is in place for the Great Global Reset, it'll come back to normal.
Only once this country is ravaged by famine, violence and economic depression will one be able to visit their local Ford dealer and freely purchase a F-250 without issue.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 1:35 pm to SingleMalt1973
I know for Toyota it has nothing to do with a chip shortage and has everything to do with labor. Japan had a chip shortage after the 2011 Tsunami, and learned their lesson the hard way back then. The problem is the factories and plants that build the parts are located in Mexico, Thailand, Singapore. Once the plants shutdown due to Covid outbreaks or due to very low labor, step 0.1 to building a car is put on pause. The demand isn’t going away because people need cars, but the manufacturer cannot catch up in time and hence the pre-orders and empty lots.
Now as far as the American car manufacturers, that is a whole other rabbit hole to go down.
Now as far as the American car manufacturers, that is a whole other rabbit hole to go down.
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