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re: Can someone explain to me why this is unpopular in America?

Posted on 5/15/21 at 12:21 pm to
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 5/15/21 at 12:21 pm to
It’s too expensive.
Posted by LT
The City of St. George
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 5/15/21 at 12:22 pm to
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Europe developed an extensive passenger train network because it worked for them


Also, roads in most European cities predate automobiles.
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 5/15/21 at 12:25 pm to
Posted by LSUAlum2001
Stavro Mueller Beta
Member since Aug 2003
48149 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 12:26 pm to
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Amtrak traveling at 450 MPH? Now that's some great gas mileage.


And Amtrak will stop at every podunk town between Chicago and New Orleans.
Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
7319 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 12:26 pm to
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If the cost of operation is actually paid for by the travelers instead of the taxpayers I doubt seriously any one would ride it.



I'm guessing we could find a number between 0 and 1000 that would maintain profitability.

If your business wasn't subsidized by Chinese slave labor, would anyone buy your crap?
This post was edited on 5/15/21 at 12:27 pm
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36439 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 12:28 pm to
Cross-country train can't beat a plane.

It's the like 3-5 hour train rides vs a plane that could have some value. It's way less of a pain in the arse than flying and the time savings of the shorter travel time are negated by getting to the airport, security, leaving airport, getting rental car, ect

Posted by MrCoolBeans
Coolsville
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Posted on 5/15/21 at 12:42 pm to
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Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
7620 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 12:48 pm to
Too many at level grade crossings. Imagine a ten car passenger train with 300 souls on board, traveling at 200 mph, hitting a loaded log truck. I've ridden Amtrak several times and it is like riding a US Mail jeep. Rode from El Paso to New Orleans. Made great time from El Paso to Houston. The train sat in Houston at the station for an hour,why? The conductor said the railroad had to move some freight trains out of our way. From Beaumont to Lafayette we travel at 25 mph. Why? Rough track. Rode from New Orleans to Boston. I ride Coach because I'm a skinflint, made good time to Atlanta.Breakfast on the City of New Orleans is delicious. Train stopped in North Carolina for 2 hours. Conductor said the railroad had to move some freight trains so we could pass. Between DC and Boston the train hauls arse because the Pennsylvania Railroad during the 1920s invested a crapton of money building the NE Corridor, a four track electrified hi speed commuter /freight railroad with limited at level grade crossings. Our train ran 120mph. On the way back from Boston just out of DC ,the train ran out of drinks and food. Nothing to drink or eat until we got to Atlanta. Sounds just like the post office.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 5/15/21 at 12:52 pm to
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Like, it takes a day by Amtrack to get from Chicago to New Orleans. In Europe and Asia it would take less then 2 to 6 hours. Why is most of America anti-trains? I don't get it.


The tracks are owned and maintained by the freight train companies. The tracks are prioritized by who owns them.

High speed rail will take a higher grade track
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
12817 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 12:52 pm to
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it takes a day by Amtrack to get from Chicago to New Orleans.


LIAR.

I went from St Louis to Chicago by train. Might have been the worst experience of my life. 9 hour tour.

So many stops. So many delays.

I bet the traveling suicide rate in the 1800s had to be like 70%. At one point I deliriously asked my wife would it be quicker just to jump off the train at the next stop and Uber the rest of the way.

My personal hell is seeing the US by train.
This post was edited on 5/15/21 at 12:55 pm
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
19194 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 12:54 pm to
Because I don’t want to sit next to you for 4 hours.
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
17458 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 12:59 pm to
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If your business wasn't subsidized by Chinese slave labor, would anyone buy your crap?


That’s how we got the railroads in the first place.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
23266 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 1:02 pm to
WE like our big gas guzzlers!
Posted by TK421
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2011
10420 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 1:02 pm to
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He talked about a train that will go coast to coast faster than a passenger airline


He also said planes would go 2000 mph.
Posted by Tider13
Member since Jun 2020
961 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 1:08 pm to
Hey man, you know, like, you should, like post, like less. Like thank you.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44308 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

WE like our big gas guzzlers!



This has exactly nothing to do with why a passenger rail system in the US won't work.

Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 1:11 pm to
It costs nearly as much to ride coach in a train for an entire day as it does to fly a few hours first class where you're going.

The next time you can get a coach fare on the City of New Orleans leaving from New Orleans for Chicago is at 1:45 PM on Wed. the 19th. It arrives at something like 9 AM the next morning, if on schedule. The ticket is about $220. That's 18 hours on a train with no bed, no private bathroom, no shower. Just a seat.

American Airlines has a flight leaving New Orleans at 11:43 AM on the 19th that arrives in Chicago at 2:24 PM. 3 and a half hours total. For 59 bucks. If you want to fly first class, that's $279.

That's why Americans don't use trains, you dolt.
This post was edited on 5/15/21 at 1:26 pm
Posted by NOLAManBlog
The Big Nasty
Member since Dec 2012
1218 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 1:28 pm to
What ever happened to Elon Musk 's hyperloop?? It is supposed to be faster than a jet
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
9792 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 1:28 pm to
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Perhaps had they not been so devastated by WWII and had more disposable income in the years after the war, they might have developed roads and seen personal ownership of cars take off, like it did here.


If only we had something that de-incentivized the use of personal cars.

Any suburban town is absolutely miserable to get around in. Forget about going anywhere on a Saturday without sitting in your vehicle dealing with road ragers for a good portion of the day. Always amuses me when cities/commissions try to fix congestion by widening lanes, not realizing that's like fanning flames.

I don't see why America is so against alternative means of transportation. A city wide bike path system or a region wide public transit system that is actually incentivized and used would work wonders in terms of lowering the rate of overweight citizens in the United States.

I'd love for someone against bike pathways or incentives to use public transportation explain to me the fear.
This post was edited on 5/15/21 at 1:30 pm
Posted by Nawlens Gator
louisiana
Member since Sep 2005
5946 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 2:04 pm to

I rode the Shinkansen in Japan a few times. It's pretty cool at 180 mph. Passengers are at about 500,000 / day now. Would never work in the US.

Driving a vehicle in Japan is risky because all their drivers are Kamikazes.

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