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re: Can someone explain to me why this is unpopular in America?
Posted on 5/15/21 at 11:44 am to UCLA 4 life
Posted on 5/15/21 at 11:44 am to UCLA 4 life
There are almost no places I would like to take a train to - has to be something far enough to be inconvenient by car and close enough that I'm not stuck on a train more than 2-3 hours tops. So like a 400 mile range, probably?
For me, that means Nashville, Charlotte, and Charleston (pushing it) could turn into daytrips, but only if there was a hub in my city and I didn't have to drive 90 minutes to one.
Convenient? Sure, but a really low priority for me, especially if you'd have to blow up the Blue Ridge to get across the mountains.
For me, that means Nashville, Charlotte, and Charleston (pushing it) could turn into daytrips, but only if there was a hub in my city and I didn't have to drive 90 minutes to one.
Convenient? Sure, but a really low priority for me, especially if you'd have to blow up the Blue Ridge to get across the mountains.
Posted on 5/15/21 at 11:44 am to UCLA 4 life
Imagine, in 2021, building an extensive commuter rail system in this country. I can't even begin to comprehend the cost and time that would take. I do know that most of us would likely be dead before we got to ride it any real distance.
Also, it doesn't make sense dumping trillions of dollars into a commuter railway when the rest of our infrastructure is crumbling.
Also, it doesn't make sense dumping trillions of dollars into a commuter railway when the rest of our infrastructure is crumbling.
This post was edited on 5/15/21 at 11:47 am
Posted on 5/15/21 at 11:45 am to Jimbeaux
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I really think that a train from New Orleans to Baton Rouge to Houston, with a few stops in between would be very popular if done right.
It probably would, but right now the train between Houston and New Orleans stops in Schriever instead of Baton Rouge. Because Logic.
Posted on 5/15/21 at 11:46 am to Wolfhound45
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You alma mater must be so proud of you.
Mine is and much cheaper than UCLA
Posted on 5/15/21 at 11:52 am to UCLA 4 life
Took the train to Chicago, and on to Michigan after that, with my two year old daughter a few years back. Was awesome, but I had my own bedroom and bathroom. Meals were included, along with my own bed that they set up and took down for me. Pretty cool experience. But it is just so expensive, and coach would have been pretty miserable.
Posted on 5/15/21 at 11:54 am to UCLA 4 life
All the time people point to trains in Europe and Asia like they are something special.
We had extensive passenger rail systems in the USA until jet planes became the norm. The rail roads went out of business.
The truth of the matter is air travel has grown tremendously in both those areas of the world. If train travel is some kind of end all, be all mode of travel how can air travel be expanding at such tremendous rates?
We had extensive passenger rail systems in the USA until jet planes became the norm. The rail roads went out of business.
The truth of the matter is air travel has grown tremendously in both those areas of the world. If train travel is some kind of end all, be all mode of travel how can air travel be expanding at such tremendous rates?
This post was edited on 5/15/21 at 11:59 am
Posted on 5/15/21 at 11:58 am to I B Freeman
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All the time people point to trains in Europe and Asia like they are something special.
The truth of the matter is air travel has grown tremendously in both those areas of the world. If train travel is some kind of end all, be all mode of travel how can air travel be expanding at such tremendous rates?
Even with high speed rail, 500 miles or so is the limit. Which means that areas in the US where there aren't a grouping of cities will struggle to make passenger rail work.
You can probably get one to work on the gulf coast eventually as the region grows along I-10 and I-12 (and those highway arteries become more clogged), but the New Orleans-Chicago route will always be slow and sparsely used.
Posted on 5/15/21 at 11:58 am to UCLA 4 life
1. Geographical size
2. Individualism
3. Population density
The US could certainly do it if it’s priorities were focused on true infrastructure improvements. Instead the infrastructure bill Biden is pushing is loaded with lefty fantasies and political payoffs.
Think about this, the US sends about $50 billion in foreign aid all over the world annually. That’s enough to build 50 world class airports or payoff a nationwide high speed rail system in a decade.
2. Individualism
3. Population density
The US could certainly do it if it’s priorities were focused on true infrastructure improvements. Instead the infrastructure bill Biden is pushing is loaded with lefty fantasies and political payoffs.
Think about this, the US sends about $50 billion in foreign aid all over the world annually. That’s enough to build 50 world class airports or payoff a nationwide high speed rail system in a decade.
Posted on 5/15/21 at 12:00 pm to goofball
There are no economic advantages nor I suspect, even environmental advantages of high speed rail over airplanes.
This post was edited on 5/15/21 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 5/15/21 at 12:00 pm to UCLA 4 life
Reader Railroad
Reader, Arkansas
Been there. Done that
Reader, Arkansas
Been there. Done that
Posted on 5/15/21 at 12:01 pm to LegendInMyMind
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Imagine, in 2021, building an extensive commuter rail system in this country. I can't even begin to comprehend the cost and time that would take. I do know that most of us would likely be dead before we got to ride it any real distance
Would be nice to see a couple red states do it in 25% of the time and 50% of the budget of California.
If Tennessee ran a line from Knoxville to Nashville, I guarantee it would be full every day. You're talking 180 miles, so like a 1 hour trip. You could commute to work for that.
This post was edited on 5/15/21 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 5/15/21 at 12:05 pm to UCLA 4 life
I would prefer to see freight taken on the roads and move to short sea shipping routes and pipelines. This would reduce the long haul trucking traffic and reduce congestion especially on the I-95 and I-10 corridors.
Posted on 5/15/21 at 12:06 pm to UCLA 4 life
US is too big and other than the northeast it’s not economically feasible or densely populated enough.
You might could make it work between NE cities and maybe west coast cities and between Dallas, Houston, Austin, San Antonio.
You might could make it work between NE cities and maybe west coast cities and between Dallas, Houston, Austin, San Antonio.
Posted on 5/15/21 at 12:08 pm to UCLA 4 life
18 stops between Chicago and New Orleans is a drag..train is not the smoothest ride either. Blowing horn at every crossing makes it hard to get a decent rest. Scenery is nothing to write home about. I did it once, I'm good.
Posted on 5/15/21 at 12:10 pm to UCLA 4 life
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Like, it takes a day by Amtrack to get from Chicago to New Orleans. In Europe and Asia it would take less then 2 to 6 hours
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Trains are awesome and they give great sight seeing of America's beauty.
How much sightseeing do you think is going on at over 150-450 miles an hour?
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The price tag of the massive project to build a Los Angeles-to-San Francisco high-speed rail system has shot up from an original estimate in 2008 of $33 billion with service starting in 2020 to at least $100 billion with an uncertain start date.
California High-Speed Railway Project 67 Billion Over Budget
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I don't care what political party you are.
Based on your lack of critical-thinking skills, I can guess what political party YOU are....
This post was edited on 5/15/21 at 10:42 pm
Posted on 5/15/21 at 12:14 pm to UCLA 4 life
If some private enterprise wants to build it, I'm all for it. As long as my tax dollars don't pay for it, why not?
Posted on 5/15/21 at 12:14 pm to UCLA 4 life
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Like, it takes a day by Amtrack to get from Chicago to New Orleans. In Europe and Asia it would take less then 2 to 6 hours.
Why is most of America anti-trains?
I think you answered you own question. A train took me from Zurich to Milan in a few hours, but it will take me a day to get to Chicago. While a plane flight takes me two hours.
Posted on 5/15/21 at 12:16 pm to Muthsera
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If Tennessee ran a line from Knoxville to Nashville, I guarantee it would be full every day.
Oh yeah?? At what price do you make that guarantee?
Free?? sure $1000? I doubt it.
If the cost of operation is actually paid for by the travelers instead of the taxpayers I doubt seriously any one would ride it.
This post was edited on 5/15/21 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 5/15/21 at 12:17 pm to UCLA 4 life
I agree with you, I wish there was one from Dallas to Atlanta. I hate driving in traffic.
Posted on 5/15/21 at 12:19 pm to UCLA 4 life
We have dimbasses getting hit by slow freight trains now... what do you think the outcome of having high speed trains will be?
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