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re: California trying to ban contact football for kids under 12

Posted on 1/10/24 at 3:08 pm to
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51350 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 3:08 pm to
quote:

ultimate frisbee (insane workout)


Ultimate frisbee is such a great game and workout for kids.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67591 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 3:08 pm to
just make them play without helmets
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13639 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 3:09 pm to
I honestly don't think this is a terrible idea. If my kid was set on playing football when he's older, I'd sign him up to play 2 sports: flag football and rugby.
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
4898 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 3:11 pm to
Might as well ban bicycles, skateboards, rollerskates, and running on slippery surfaces.

Life is full of risk. A team sport that involves contact is good for young boys. The risk is there, but the benefits are too.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
39053 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 3:11 pm to
Ultimate is no substitution for soccer.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13639 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 3:13 pm to
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A team sport that involves contact is good for young boys. The risk is there, but the benefits are too.


Lots of contact sports with much lower rates of brain injuries.

Jiu-jitsu, wrestling, rugby, etc. And honestly being strong at one of those before starting football would be a big advantage, especially rugby.




This post was edited on 1/10/24 at 3:14 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261332 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 3:15 pm to
The nanny state.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27686 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 3:16 pm to
6th or 7th grade is really the only time that you start to get cohesive play from youngsters before that it's fun to watch but usually not as organized as you might think.
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
21706 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 3:17 pm to
We started tackle football at 9. We also played crack-the-whip, king of the hill, smear the queer, dodge ball, monkey bars, diving boards, and dirt clod fights.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43187 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 3:21 pm to
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i mean you dont get anything out of tackle football before then except injuries and kids hating the game before even getting to really play the game.
Where do you get your stats from? Personal experience as a player and parent, most kids loved the game and stuck with it. There were no significant injuries that I recall and no one has killed their families later in life.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13639 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 3:22 pm to
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We also played crack-the-whip, king of the hill, smear the queer, dodge ball, monkey bars, diving boards, and dirt clod fights.


I don't know crack the whip or diving boards, but the others are safer in terms of brain injury than football.

It's the helmets. Players think they can lower their heads and/or use them as weapons. Honestly, tackle football without pads would be safer for kids. I'd be all for that.

Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99071 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 3:25 pm to
Yet this same state will let a kid the same age get puberty blockers and other "gender affirming" care.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 3:26 pm to
That's dumb. Kids are basically made out of rubber and aren't strong or fast enough to really hurt themselves anyway. Football doesn't start getting dangerous till puberty.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90809 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 3:26 pm to
I just don’t see the level of contact occurring between 4th-5th graders that would cause any CTE

As a kid I banged my head on shite at the playground way worse than any hit that occurred in peewee football with a helmet on
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
12244 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 3:27 pm to
That’s not a terrible idea.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90809 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 3:30 pm to
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Nothing more ridiculous than seeing 6 and 7-year-old kids wearing oversized helmets playing tackle football.


Since when do 1st and 2nd graders play tackle football. We started peewee in 4th grade which I was 10 years old then
Posted by au4you
Alabama
Member since Dec 2010
2539 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 3:37 pm to
Not a bad idea at all. So many dads out there cosplaying as NFL coaches and getting kids hurt or setting them up to get hurt in the future with teaching terrible fundamentals.
This post was edited on 1/10/24 at 3:38 pm
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29336 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 3:38 pm to
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Since when do 1st and 2nd graders play tackle football. We started peewee in 4th grade which I was 10 years old then


They start young.

When I was young, we didn't start flag until 3rd or 4th grade. Tackle started around 5th. I held my oldest son out of football till 6th grade and I'm glad I did.
Posted by bamaguy17
Member since Jul 2022
738 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 3:38 pm to
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Jr high (7th grade) is a pretty normal time to start tackle football…so 12. Not a big deal IMO


Watch a prepubescent 12 year old face off with a 6’2 230lb 8th grader. It happens a lot. I have no problem with youth football but that’s probably because we aren’t idiots and we make sure the other coaches aren’t idiots. My opinion is kids should play at least a year before getting to jr high. I’ve seen flag footballers get absolutely wrecked because they don’t understand getting tackled. They pick it up quick or quit
This post was edited on 1/10/24 at 3:40 pm
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
21288 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 3:39 pm to
Tackle football with elementary kids ranks among the saddest things you can watch.

Their bodies are not ready to move around in the pads and helmets, they also get very little athletic achievement from it.

Any football before 7th grade should be flag or touch. This will allow the kids understand the concepts much better.
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