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re: California trying to ban contact football for kids under 12
Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:45 pm to crap4brain
Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:45 pm to crap4brain
I’m torn on what to side to take. 10 and 11 year olds getting concussions isn’t good, but it preps them for the real world and teaches them that life is about taking hits and seeing how fast you can get back up.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:53 pm to crap4brain
Half the posters on here will probably support this.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 6:10 pm to danilo
I was 5 in 1975 and we started with 5-6 year old tackle football. Powder Springs Ponies!
Next was pound ball. We went 55lb, to 65lb, to 75lb, and 85lb. That was the usual progression through the elementary school years. We had weigh-ins before every game. We usually only had a couple guys on the cusp of going over on the scale and not being able to play. We didn’t have as many obese kids back then either but the ones who were 20-30 lbs heavier just couldn’t be on the team. By the time we were in 6th grade, we could play in the 105lb class at parks and rec or play on the 6th/7th grade team. The 8th grade team was separated.
Tackle football was great for our development. There were never collisions violent enough to worry about concussions. I did see a few broken arms and legs along the way though. But that is any contact sport.
I am not in agreement with this because I was an 8th grade head coach for many years. It was a feeder school to a state powerhouse and I had anywhere from 70-80 players on my teams. I was fortunate to have a large staff of former teammates as volunteer coaches. Usually 9-12 helping to coach and we could split practices into groups because with that many we had all levels of development in that 13-14 year old age range. The kids that had played from elementary school on up were usually grounded in fundamentals. It was the 1st year players who needed the attention from my developmental group coaches until they could overcome the mental block that causes some to clam up right at impact rather than accelerating behind the pads at impact. Some got it quick and some took half a season.
But I coached that age group for 12 years and fortunately only saw a few broken bones and one guy that suffered heat exhaustion.
I really think the bill is virtue signaling bull crap because it is extremely, extremely, rare for a kid under 12 to suffer a brain injury with the sizes and speed that collisions occur.
Next was pound ball. We went 55lb, to 65lb, to 75lb, and 85lb. That was the usual progression through the elementary school years. We had weigh-ins before every game. We usually only had a couple guys on the cusp of going over on the scale and not being able to play. We didn’t have as many obese kids back then either but the ones who were 20-30 lbs heavier just couldn’t be on the team. By the time we were in 6th grade, we could play in the 105lb class at parks and rec or play on the 6th/7th grade team. The 8th grade team was separated.
Tackle football was great for our development. There were never collisions violent enough to worry about concussions. I did see a few broken arms and legs along the way though. But that is any contact sport.
I am not in agreement with this because I was an 8th grade head coach for many years. It was a feeder school to a state powerhouse and I had anywhere from 70-80 players on my teams. I was fortunate to have a large staff of former teammates as volunteer coaches. Usually 9-12 helping to coach and we could split practices into groups because with that many we had all levels of development in that 13-14 year old age range. The kids that had played from elementary school on up were usually grounded in fundamentals. It was the 1st year players who needed the attention from my developmental group coaches until they could overcome the mental block that causes some to clam up right at impact rather than accelerating behind the pads at impact. Some got it quick and some took half a season.
But I coached that age group for 12 years and fortunately only saw a few broken bones and one guy that suffered heat exhaustion.
I really think the bill is virtue signaling bull crap because it is extremely, extremely, rare for a kid under 12 to suffer a brain injury with the sizes and speed that collisions occur.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 6:15 pm to crap4brain
My only concern is what about the chunky slow kids that only know how to play rough?
Posted on 1/10/24 at 6:19 pm to crap4brain
Smart……. Kids brain s do not fill out the skull until they are 12
Posted on 1/10/24 at 8:15 pm to Gaston
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They have 7th grade teams and 8th grade teams
Our county is moving to 7-9 graders
Posted on 1/10/24 at 8:40 pm to crap4brain
I played tackle football from age 8 thru high school. By far the most fun I had (and the least dangerous imo) was age 8-11. I had as much or more fun at practice than the games thru that age. We simply didn't get enough momentum up to cause a head injury/concussion. I never saw a real injury until junior high when coaches started legislating the speed of the game and had us go half-speed and "half" had a different meaning to some of us
I totally agree about the helmet size/weight on kids though, to the point I wouldnt be opposed to pee-wee football being played in bike helmets. In Jr High, we went from the lighter weight hutch style helmets to the heavier Ridell helmets. I have no idea if that made a difference, but it wasn't until jr high school that I would get some pretty intense head aches from simply wearing a helmet for too long of a period, and it wasn't until high school that I got a concussion playing football. And even then it was hitting my head on the turf at old Bernie Moore, not another kid.
I totally agree about the helmet size/weight on kids though, to the point I wouldnt be opposed to pee-wee football being played in bike helmets. In Jr High, we went from the lighter weight hutch style helmets to the heavier Ridell helmets. I have no idea if that made a difference, but it wasn't until jr high school that I would get some pretty intense head aches from simply wearing a helmet for too long of a period, and it wasn't until high school that I got a concussion playing football. And even then it was hitting my head on the turf at old Bernie Moore, not another kid.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 8:43 pm to crap4brain
But mutilation surgeries for infants. frick those demonic fricks.
Posted on 1/14/24 at 10:29 am to crap4brain
I thought this was America!
Nvm.
quote:
California
Nvm.
Posted on 1/14/24 at 10:55 am to crap4brain
I got more concussions playing soccer than I did football.
Posted on 1/14/24 at 11:35 am to deltaland
I wanna say I started in 3rd. Or how ever old 8-9yo is
Posted on 1/14/24 at 1:19 pm to Lsutigerturner
Football can't survive progressivism. Anyone that thinks this is the end of the push is smoking crack. Soon it will be the next age group, then the next, then the next. Pair that with stricter and stricter rules at the college and pro level, and it will squeeze the remaining life out of football. Downvote me all you want but even the biggest bleeding hearts on this board know I'm right.
Posted on 1/14/24 at 1:24 pm to crap4brain
Another step in the pussification of America
Posted on 1/14/24 at 3:51 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Football doesn't start getting dangerous till puberty.
And the participants start hitting the roids. Honestly all levels of football would be a ton safer if players weren’t unnaturally fast/strong.
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