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re: California fast food restaurants have cut 10,000 jobs since passing $20 minimum wage

Posted on 6/6/24 at 11:55 am to
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16420 posts
Posted on 6/6/24 at 11:55 am to
Feel good legislation

Raising the minimum wage forces business to either pass along the cost or find a way to lessen the cost.

Marginal business cannot pass along the cost so they mechanize and this is where we’ll see the layoffs.
The problem is with the smaller operators that can’t mechanize. They just shut down.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27902 posts
Posted on 6/6/24 at 11:57 am to
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You’re a pretty big lib, so I may have confused you with someone else.


You have no idea what I am, and the fact that this is your mindset makes you the problem, regardless of your political leanings.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
38726 posts
Posted on 6/6/24 at 11:58 am to
It isnt a mistake, it is a feature
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
122916 posts
Posted on 6/6/24 at 11:59 am to
Did you cry while typing that?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 6/6/24 at 12:00 pm to
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You have no idea what I am


You've made this pretty clear, but I do understand the embarrassment.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
139486 posts
Posted on 6/6/24 at 12:02 pm to
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It’s an intended consequence. More people dependent completely on welfare so they can drum up the next revenue crises to raise taxes.


And get free money from the govt so they keep that state the bluest of blue.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27902 posts
Posted on 6/6/24 at 12:08 pm to
How’s your liver doing?
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27902 posts
Posted on 6/6/24 at 12:10 pm to
Solid burn?

Goddamn, I enjoy self deprecating humor and jokes at my expense. I wouldn’t consider myself to be thin skinned in that regard. But at least be clever or funny. That was honestly the taunt I would expect a third grader to come up with. Do better.
This post was edited on 6/6/24 at 12:12 pm
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
59297 posts
Posted on 6/6/24 at 12:15 pm to
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To highlight what it says are the unintended consequences of the law


The law of Supply and Demand doesn't give a frick about intentions. It's amazing to me how ostrich-like those who push for MW increases can be when talking about how raising wages through legal mandate raises both inflation and unemployment.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 6/6/24 at 12:20 pm to
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It’s an intended consequence.

agreed.

The 98% of fast food employees that still have their jobs earn 25% more money, the 2% that had their jobs cut were the worst 2% of all fast food workers. good riddance.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
32106 posts
Posted on 6/6/24 at 12:22 pm to
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prices keep rising

For nonessential items like fast food, prices can only rise to a certain level before the customer refuses to pay for it. Creating a mandatory minimum wage a such a level has become a lose-lose prospect for the fast food industry.

I used to patronize a particular Subway on Ventura Blvd near Taft High in Woodland Hills. Back in 2014, before the 15./hr mandated minimum wage went into effect, spurred on by L.A. mayor Eric Garcetti, it was no problem going there and getting a sandwich, soup, chips and drink in 15 minutes flat, for less than $10! A year later, after the mandate, the Subway responded by downsizing and cutting staff size in half. Service became terrible....and prices went up!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 6/6/24 at 12:25 pm to
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How’s your liver doing?


Better than yours. No alcohol here in almost 20 years.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27902 posts
Posted on 6/6/24 at 12:29 pm to
Good on you.

Glad the liver can regenerate. Wish brain cells could at the same rate.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
25893 posts
Posted on 6/6/24 at 12:29 pm to
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Wait till this kindof automation is fully used.


That is the place I was talking about.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 6/6/24 at 12:31 pm to
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Blunders like this are never unintentional.

is this a blunder for fast food workers?

I'd definitely agree to a 25% pay raise if it meant 2% of my coworkers would lose their jobs.

I might do it even if 10% of my coworkers would lose their jobs. They would cut the 10% least productive workers and the rest of us would get a huge salary bump.
This post was edited on 6/6/24 at 12:32 pm
Posted by Dairy Sanders
Member since Apr 2022
2963 posts
Posted on 6/6/24 at 12:33 pm to
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Makes perfect sense Newsom must own stock in subway or Jimmy John's


Panera Bread. He owns stock and one of their major franchisees is a friend and donor of his.
This post was edited on 6/6/24 at 12:35 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 6/6/24 at 12:35 pm to
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Wish brain cells could at the same rate.
. I'll pray for you.. neuroscience. Has come a long way.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27902 posts
Posted on 6/6/24 at 12:36 pm to
Appreciate that. Hope all is well in Alaska.
Posted by Dairy Sanders
Member since Apr 2022
2963 posts
Posted on 6/6/24 at 12:36 pm to
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The true minimum wage is always $0.


No. You want a downward curve on wages, that’s how it happens.

Increases in minimum wage should be tied to inflation. But adults in their late 20s and on shouldn’t be working entry level/low end fast food jobs anyways.
Posted by Tempratt
Member since Oct 2013
15199 posts
Posted on 6/6/24 at 12:39 pm to
These FF workers never considered that this their hero pass it his minimum wage would put them out of a job. Now sone are wanting $30/hr. None of these jobs are worth it.
They’re not worth $9/hr let alone 20 or 30.
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