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Caeser or Napoleon: who was greater

Posted on 1/19/18 at 6:50 pm
Posted by athenslife101
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 6:50 pm
Really tough question for me to answer and they’re actually both pretty similar in a lot of ways.

Both were born as bottom tier nobles
Both took over failing republics
Both were radicals in youth: Napoleon was a Jacobin and Ceaser was a populist
Both had sexual humiliations:Ceaser got butt-fricked by the king of Bythia for influence when he was a young soldier and Napoleon was infamously a terrible lover who got publicly cuckolded by his wife
Both were military geniuses

I’d say some of Napoleon’s accomplishments are greater than Ceaser’s. The Napoleonic Code alone is the most important law code the world had ever seen. He had a greater impact at reorganizing society. I think you could also make the case he also generally fought against better competition than what Ceaser faced.

But he lost in the end.

On second thought, Caeser lost too.

This post was edited on 1/19/18 at 7:07 pm
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 7:06 pm to
Caesar, until Dan Carlin comes out with a series on the Napoleonic Wars.
Posted by AUCE05
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 7:08 pm to
I want to say Napoleon fought better competition. People wanted to be Roman.
Posted by cubsfan5150
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 7:13 pm to
Caesar

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This post was edited on 1/19/18 at 7:16 pm
Posted by tigercross
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 7:20 pm to
quote:

The Napoleonic Code alone is the most important law code the world had ever seen.


More important than Magna Carta? I can see arguments for both.
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 7:20 pm to
Well... he did fight against Romans too m, but in general, he fought against a lot of tribal warriors.

Napoleon fought against major empires and professional armies. Britain, Austria, Prussia, Russia
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 7:25 pm to
I don’t see the Magna Carta as a law code and the Magna Carta specifically influenced England. It would be awhile before it trickled down to affect countries like the US.

The Napoleonic Code was a major structure off what civil society and civil law could be built
Posted by Tyga Woods
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 7:26 pm to
Caesar only has one “e”, baw.
Posted by bayoumuscle21
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Posted on 1/20/18 at 5:22 am to
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Caesar, until Dan Carlin comes out with a series on the Napoleonic Wars.


Hardcore!

People don't realize Caeser was worse than Hitler.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/20/18 at 5:49 am to
Which series is about Caesar? I just finished the Celtic Holocaust but I think Carlin undercut him more than anything.
Posted by pioneerbasketball
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Posted on 1/20/18 at 5:50 am to
Alexander
Posted by shinerfan
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Posted on 1/20/18 at 6:11 am to
quote:

Both had sexual humiliations:Ceaser got butt-fricked by the king of Bythia




That was a smear by his political rivals. We've got no idea if it was true.
Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 1/20/18 at 7:27 am to
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Which series is about Caesar?


There is a good bit about him in Death Throes of a Republic. The first few episodes are basically a build up explaining what allowed ceasar to do what he did
Posted by TheTideMustRoll
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 1/20/18 at 8:06 am to
Tough call. From a purely military standpoint, I would say Napoleon. Caesar took over a Roman army that was already the best in the world and had been for centuries. Napoleon took over what was basically a band of rabble and turned them into the best army in the world.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 1/20/18 at 8:37 am to
quote:

The Napoleonic Code alone is the most important law code the world had ever seen


Depends on your definition of important.

The Code of Hammurabi may be more important. Or the 10 Commandments.
Posted by bigwheel
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Posted on 1/20/18 at 8:37 am to
Caesar
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 1/20/18 at 8:46 am to
Exactly. Gots to wait for Dan Carlin tells me so that I can history too.
This post was edited on 1/20/18 at 8:47 am
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 1/20/18 at 8:54 am to
quote:

I just finished the Celtic Holocaust
Yeah, after centuries of raids and incursions, Caesar went on a bit of an asswhipping whistlestop tour of the continent. It's one of the most triumphant moments in history, but liberals are pussies, so it's "genocide."

It's hard to say who is the better general. napoleon's tactics will be taught in military schools until the end of time, but he did also lose. Caesar had to be stabbed 137 times to "defeat" him. Plus, his victory at Alesia is one of the most impressive military victories of all time.
Posted by Samso
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 1/20/18 at 8:55 am to
I would probably say Caesar, but Napoléon’s rise to power and conquests from like the late 1790s to like 1814 was pretty incredible.
Posted by Masterag
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Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 1/20/18 at 9:13 am to
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Magna Carta


Magna Carta was a peace agreement, not code of laws
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