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re: Boston Globe article on Louisiana compared to New England schools

Posted on 10/1/25 at 7:40 pm to
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
77205 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 7:40 pm to
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This board gets so angry about progress. It’s been posted numerous times on here, but LA is making real progress in education. That’s not a bad thing.


As Louisianians it’s cramping our style as a carefree party state.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
37758 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 8:10 pm to
Clearly you contributed to the past low literacy scores because it has been stated over and over that Mississippi and Louisiana score high regardless of adjustment
This post was edited on 10/2/25 at 7:26 am
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75094 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 8:43 pm to
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I wish people wouldn't post paywalled articles.

This one is a good read, just comparing California/West coast schools to the same states.
LINK
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44214 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 9:05 pm to
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It’s not like for like test results based on a level sample size.


How can it be?

There are more black students in Washington Parish than there are in the state of Vermont.

I read the comparison as black kids in 4th grade compared to black kids in 4th grade.

No matter what, Louisiana and Mississippi are legitimately faring much better than in the past.

By requiring students to read on level, there has been subsequent increases in test scores.



Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
80812 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 9:26 pm to
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look at tests that are comparing apples to apples when comparing school systems. For high schools what is the average ACT or SAT?


Not apples to apples. In a lot of the South and Midwest everyone takes the ACT. In the North you see a lot of students take the SAT, and students in the votech track take neither.
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
15642 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 9:36 pm to
quote:

Natchitoches

I’m curious how many New Englanders can pronounce “Natchitoches”

Or, how many students from Louisiana can pronounce “Worcester“.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122141 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 9:50 pm to
I would believe it more if there was steady progress, but lets think about this. Two of the least educated states all of a sudden has students raised by low educated parents all of a sudden becomes some of the smartest people in the US?

The public school system where I live, it started this school year, but they have done away with percentage grades. Kids only get a letter grade. All As are equal. And the lowest a kid can get on a test is 50%. A kid can turn in a blank test and will get a 50% on it. There has to be some shite like this helping these scores?
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
18515 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 10:34 pm to
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Something likely changed in how they report their scores, like hey if this kid is retarded, don't count him.


So, just doing what other states and countries were already doing?
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
18515 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 10:35 pm to
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pronounce “Worcester“


Wooster
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
16762 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 11:21 pm to
Posted by tigerbutt
Deep South
Member since Jun 2006
26326 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 4:57 am to
Your post
quote:

In June 2025, it was reported that the city of Kenner has the largest Hispanic population in Louisiana, with nearly 20,000 people making up 30% of the city's population


According to data published in the World Wide Web
quote:

White (Non-Hispanic) (41.7%), Black or African American (Non-Hispanic) (18.2%), Two Races Including Other (Hispanic) (10%), Other (Hispanic) (9.06%), and …


You can’t trust any news source these days. They make up whatever they want.

So which is it? 30% or 10%
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
20765 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 5:41 am to
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You can’t trust any news source these days. They make up whatever they want.

So which is it? 30% or 10%


A quick drive down WIlliams Blvd will give you that answer.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
38468 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 5:43 am to
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Mississippi, Louisiana, and Alabama have made major gains by adopting phonics-based curricula

This certainly begs the question, why were they not already doing this?

Phonics-based approaches are key to early reading.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
33503 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 5:53 am to
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TeddyPadillac

Take your L baw
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
32878 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 6:48 am to
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This certainly begs the question, why were they not already doing this? Phonics-based approaches are key to early reading

I’ve known the “what” for years, but didn’t know the “why” until this week when the podcast “sold a story” was recommended on the last thread. I would highly recommend it as well.
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
12626 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 7:06 am to
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It’s like southerners have been so beaten down by northern propaganda and the media that they believe that they are dumber than northerners.

It doesn’t matter how smart you are, people tune out heavily accented speakers. The southern accents sound very stupid, just as the Long Island and Masshole do. Speak like this anywhere, universal first impression is you’re a dipshit.
This post was edited on 10/2/25 at 7:07 am
Posted by tigercross
Member since Feb 2008
5067 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 7:19 am to
Raw scores don’t mean much. This is a pretty elementary concept in statistical analysis. If you are trying to determine whether one state’s teaching methods are more effective, you have to compare like groups. Obviously kids who have parents with higher IQs and parents who read to them at home are going to score higher on literacy tests.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
39593 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 7:24 am to
And yet, I'm told I should accept and embrace ebonics.


Yeah, no.
Posted by whoa
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
5922 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 8:27 am to
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This certainly begs the question, why were they not already doing this? Phonics-based approaches are key to early reading.

Going through 5th grade math now & im convinced they just change shite up for shits and giggles. This new math is retarded.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
20232 posts
Posted on 10/2/25 at 8:45 am to
Gains in elementary education haven't fully percolated to high school ACT scores and adult literacy rates.

It's good the Southern states are improving, and presumably the adult population will be better off in the future.
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