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re: Border Patrol-involved shooting in Minneapolis; person shot was allegedly armed

Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:37 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:37 am to
quote:

, why did it take 5 grown men to get him on the ground and hold him down?

It didn't seem that it did take that many. There were 5 LEO there who engaged.

At least one of those LEO was clearly looking to engage by starting this whole mess by running across the street to shove a woman who wasn't doing anything unlawful.

quote:

If he was compliant one LEO would have been able to order him down and hold him down.

Exactly. They chose another option. There were several FA by the LEO and that's one of them.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:38 am to
quote:

And AGAIN, if Walz and Frey didn't refuse cooperation with immigration enforcement, local PD (which you think has better training) would have likely been there to assist instead of CBP having to do their own crowd control.


Not relevant to the discussion of this being a good shoot or not.
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
12715 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:38 am to
quote:

If the nurse wasn’t resisting arrest, why did it take 5 grown men to get him on the ground and hold him down? If he was compliant one LEO would have been able to order him down and hold him down. He fought multiple LEO’s. That’s resisting arrest and dude was armed on top of it.

Lol. We all know resisting arrest and carrying a gun that was already taken from you is grounds for being shot in the back.

Guy was getting his arse stomped by a bunch of block heads—“stop resisting”

The Incredible Hulk is an ICU nurse. He had to die.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
69423 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:38 am to
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Why were the ice agents shoving a legally protesting American woman to the ground to begin with? Not a single person can answer that.


No one can answer it because all we have right now is out of context 30 second to a minute clips. You don't get answers in a situation like this right away.
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
20504 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:39 am to
because she attacked them, they shoved her, this dumbass tried to intervene, they tried to arrest him and he resisted, and then got shot trying to reach for his gun when he tried to stand up.

Anything else you didn't see Stevie Wonder?
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
25963 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:40 am to
quote:

If the nurse wasn’t resisting arrest, why did it take 5 grown men to get him on the ground and hold him down? If he was compliant one LEO would have been able to order him down and hold him down. He fought multiple LEO’s. That’s resisting arrest and dude was armed on top of it.


Anyone who says he was not resisting should be dismissed immediately and should never be interacted with again.
Posted by Bonkers119
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2015
12071 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:41 am to
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and then got shot trying to reach for his gun when he tried to stand up.


Conservatives have to be the stupidest collection of people on the planet. Did you see the same video everyone else saw?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112299 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:41 am to
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because she attacked them,
What?

She is blowing a whistle from the other side of the street as agent Rambo walks over and shoves her to the ground

Please show me the woman attending the agent. I’ll wait
This post was edited on 1/25/26 at 8:42 am
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
35087 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:42 am to
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it shouldn’t be cause for the government to kill you.


99.999999% of the time they don't/won't. It's only when you do something stupid and become a risk to public safety that it happens.

This post was edited on 1/25/26 at 8:47 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:42 am to
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because she attacked them


From across the street? Is she a witch? X-man?
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41710 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:42 am to
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LEOs performing their lawful duties.


Has it been confirmed that this is what they were doing?

What was the legal basis for crossing the street and shoving the whistle lady down?
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
92197 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:43 am to
I can tell you will high certainty


The woman and deceased were most likely doing exactly what we see them doing. Cops probably told them to gtfo. Maybe not though. Anyways, one agent got tired of it and engaged the 2 and you see it from there.


Given that we have a solid break in whatever bad shite y’all think they were doing before the cameras rolled, help me here, what do you have in mind that would justify the agent’s actions?
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
88293 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:44 am to
quote:

and then got shot trying to reach for his gun when he tried to stand up.
wut
Posted by Bring Da Wood
Texas
Member since Dec 2006
2245 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:44 am to
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Why were the ice agents shoving a legally protesting American woman to the ground to begin with?


They were interfering with a law enforcement operation. If an LEO tells you to leave an area (which they have the right to do) you are subject to arrest.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112299 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:45 am to
quote:

What was the legal basis for crossing the street and shoving the whistle lady down?
They can’t answer

One guy just straight up lied and said she attacked them
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
92197 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:45 am to
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because she attacked them
It would be really fricking cool if y’all would stop lying to us while we have this discussion

Jesus fricking Christ
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
28004 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:46 am to
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Supporting law enforcement when they carry out one of the few constitutionally mandated functions of the federal government


That's not what happened. Don't be disingenuous
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
20504 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:47 am to
quote:

Has it been confirmed that this is what they were doing?

What was the legal basis for crossing the street and shoving the whistle lady down?
They were there at yet another Somali "owned" business to make arrests. Doing their job. You don't get to interfere with them executing their investigation/arrests and disobey orders.

And you know that.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112299 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:47 am to
So if is confirmed what is obvious, that the ice agent unlawfully assaulted the woman, does a citizen actually have the right to interject with law enforcement when they are illegally assaulting another?
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
61181 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:47 am to
I haven’t really been following this but there is one thing I know beyond a shadow of a doubt having been raised by policemen my entire life:

If you are conceal carrying and are detained, IMMEDIATELY let the officers know for your OWN safety.

Why? Because they are people just like you and me and there is only one thing they really want: to go home alive. So if they even think there is a possibility you are a legitimate threat, you will be put down. They are trained this way for their own protection.

Once a person engages their common sense and understands this, police are usually pretty easy to deal with.
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