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re: Border Patrol-involved shooting in Minneapolis; person shot was allegedly armed

Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:30 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:30 am to
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it takes several officers to detain a cooperative individual?

It seems like they were waiting for the opportunity, but it certainly wasn't a necessity

Just like why nobody has given a rational explanation why the LEO started this whole thing by crossing the street to shove the lady.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
41654 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:30 am to
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Still licking them boots


Supporting law enforcement when they carry out one of the few constitutionally mandated functions of the federal government is boot licking? You're a joke.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24364 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:31 am to
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At what point do you brainwashed idiots realize that maybe mistakes are bijg made by ICE and their undertrained officers? The whole, FAFO argument is getting old.


I’ll agree that ICE should be trained better, under one condition.

You agree that both shootings of white people were not dealing with ICE’s mission. It was dealing with white citizens interjecting themselves in protest.

ICE- immigration and customs enforcement. That’s not protest enforcement.

If we need to have local law enforcement supporting ICE, I would have no issue supporting that.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:31 am to
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Where were the “restraints on govt” when they sent billions of dollars to networks of NGOs to import 10s of millions of illegal immigrants and put them on federal programs to secure voting blocks?

Where were the “restraints on govt” that kept these groups from stealing God knows how much of taxpayer dollars?

Where are the “restraints on govt” that keep taxpayer dollars from funding the web of NGOs that pay for this?

So yeah…don’t care. If it’s going to pop off MN is as good as anywhere.


This is a white flag if I've ever seen one
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
69423 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:32 am to
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At what point do you brainwashed idiots realize that maybe mistakes are bijg made by ICE and their undertrained officers?

Sigh, AGAIN the officer who fired the shots was supposedly an 8-year CBP veteran.

And AGAIN, if Walz and Frey didn't refuse cooperation with immigration enforcement, local PD (which you think has better training) would have likely been there to assist instead of CBP having to do their own crowd control.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
20519 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:32 am to
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I think we are.


We already established your emotional mindset.


Cute. How about respond to the rest?

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When governors and mayors are taking the position to not follow federal law and telling citizens to resist law enforcement - and we’re also finding billions of tax dollars being allegedly stolen - I think we are.



Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:32 am to
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Supporting law enforcement when they carry out one of the few constitutionally mandated functions of the federal government is boot licking? You're a joke.


What immigration operation were these agents running in this scenario, exactly? How many illegals do you see on the video?
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
35087 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:32 am to
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3.) moderates- Pretti interjected himself into a dumbass situation while being armed.


I must be a moderate because this is exactly my take. Good shoot or not, why bring a firearm to an environment where the law enforcement officials are as on edge and aggressive as they have been? I'm a big 2a type of person, but that's just not smart.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
92197 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:32 am to
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it takes several officers to detain a cooperative individual?
That’s just bc that’s how many they used.

Did they ever even attempt to put this man in cuffs?


Some say it’s a good shoot. I honestly think it’s closer to this situation.

You’re walking down the street and 3 cops are walking at you. One bumps you aggressively. Another chests up with you and the 3rd yells gun and they mag dump on you.

Yes, I understand the difference in minding one’s business and loosely interfering with some cop business. I don’t care that y’all don’t care the guy is dead. But I do care that y’all are ok with police acting this way.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112299 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:33 am to
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The guy unfortunately was the catalyst to the entire tragic event
What?

The catalyst was an ICE agent illegally assaulting a woman who was doing absolutely nothing illegal

Blowing a whistle and filming from across the street is not illegal in America. Using force to stop and legally protesting American is illegal

This post was edited on 1/25/26 at 8:34 am
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
15882 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:33 am to
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it will continue until you purple haired Marxist dipshits get it through your head that you can't interfere with LEOs performing their lawful duties.


This is what you dont get, I dont think these people should interfere with LEOs, but that doesn't provide enough justification after the fact here. Its your lazy argument because you have no other actual argument.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:33 am to
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AGAIN the officer who fired the shots was supposedly an 8-year CBP veteran.

8 years of CBP training isn't really relevant to the situation that unfolded on the video.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:34 am to
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How about respond to the rest?

It's not relevant to the discussion, so I'm not going to let you derail the thread with it.
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
12715 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:34 am to
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why bring a firearm to an environment where the law enforcement officials are as on edge and aggressive as they have been? I'm a big 2a type of person, but that's just not smart.

Why would you bring a gun anywhere? But again, that is your right and it shouldn’t be cause for the government to kill you.
Posted by Bring Da Wood
Texas
Member since Dec 2006
2245 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:34 am to
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as the nurse was not just killed for having a gun, but from my understanding was, at least initially, resisting arrest.

The video really doesn't back this up.


If the nurse wasn’t resisting arrest, why did it take 5 grown men to get him on the ground and hold him down? If he was compliant one LEO would have been able to order him down and hold him down. He fought multiple LEO’s. That’s resisting arrest and dude was armed on top of it.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
41654 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:34 am to
Even for you, this was a weak attempt.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:35 am to
I may have been mistaken b/c you spoke so generally.

What are the "the few constitutionally mandated functions of the federal government" you were referencing in your post?

I took that as immigration, but you seem to be saying it was something else.
This post was edited on 1/25/26 at 8:36 am
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
69423 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:35 am to
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8 years of CBP training isn't really relevant to the situation that unfolded on the video.


If you read to the second point in my post you would have seen

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And AGAIN, if Walz and Frey didn't refuse cooperation with immigration enforcement, local PD (which you think has better training) would have likely been there to assist instead of CBP having to do their own crowd control.


But we all know you're just trolling for attention, so carry on.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
92197 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:35 am to
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still want one person defending the agents to give one legal reason the ICE agent had any legal standing to shove the woman to the ground in the first place?
It makes his next action so bad. You know you’ve just blasted this bitch. Let’s not freak out when a guy calmly reacts to it and then tries to help the lady.

He freaked out on a 20/10 level.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112299 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:36 am to
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He fought multiple LEO’
Why were the ice agents shoving a legally protesting American woman to the ground to begin with?

Not a single person can answer that. What legal standing did ICE have to ever start any physical event with the woman and the man?
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