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re: Border Patrol-involved shooting in Minneapolis; person shot was allegedly armed

Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:47 am to
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
15882 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:47 am to
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They were interfering with a law enforcement operation. If an LEO tells you to leave an area (which they have the right to do) you are subject to arrest.



You all are just getting lazy now.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
28002 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:48 am to
quote:

Anyone who says he was not resisting should be dismissed immediately and should never be interacted with again.


No they just started beating the fricking shite out of him instead of even attempting to de escalate you fricking idiot
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112299 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:48 am to
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You don't get to interfere with them executing their investigation/arrests and disobey orders.
In the USA you absolutely can legally sit across the street and film and yell

Jesus Christ
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:49 am to
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b. You don't get to interfere with them executing their investigation/arrests and disobey orders.


How did they interfere with LEO across the street?
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
54992 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:49 am to
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Blowing a whistle and filming from across the street is not illegal in America. Using force to stop and legally protesting American is illegal


You need to watch the videos. They start in the street near the ice car as the agents are doing something. Ice agent over reacts and pushes her back off the street

She was not the catalyst. He was because he was never involved until he inserted himself
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
20519 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:49 am to
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It's not relevant to the discussion, so I'm not going to let you derail the thread with it.


So the governor of the state directing citizens to get in the face of Federal officers and “resist” isn’t relevant to the discussion of one of these citizens getting shot?

By all means, continue navel gazing from your living room about how federal LE should handle themselves while going about their duties while the city is being instructed to resist them.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23463 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:50 am to
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In the USA you absolutely can legally sit across the street and film and yell


"Actually if a fed tells you that you can't be on the same street as him or film him, he's allowed to approach you and shove you down, libtard"
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:50 am to
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In the USA you absolutely can legally sit across the street and film and yell

Jesus Christ


The new anti-filming law in LA, which is probably unconstitutional, creates a 21-foot barrier. The distance b/w the LEO and woman was a bit more than that.

Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41710 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:51 am to
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You don't get to interfere with them executing their investigation/arrests and disobey orders.


What specifically was the interference? Blowing a whistle?
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
54992 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:51 am to
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seems like they were waiting for the opportunity, but it certainly wasn't a necessity

Just like why nobody has given a rational explanation why the LEO started this whole thing by crossing the street to shove the lady.


The other videos show the guy and the two ladies in the street to start. Two of the ladies are right next to the ice vehicle doing whatever they are doing

Ice agent overreacts and shoves them to sidewalk

Deceased inserts himself in the midst of the scuffle to help the women then becomes the target
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
15882 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:51 am to
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If you are conceal carrying and are detained, IMMEDIATELY let the officers know for your OWN safety


Agreed, but this wasn't a routine traffic stop. It went from 0 to 100 in the matter of seconds.
Posted by Trapped in time
Member since Mar 2023
628 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:51 am to
quote:

You don't get to interfere with them executing their investigation/arrests and disobey orders.


I think you can blow a whistle
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:52 am to
quote:

So the governor of the state directing citizens to get in the face of Federal officers and “resist” isn’t relevant to the discussion of one of these citizens getting shot?



If you have watched the videos, you'd know it is clearly not relevant.

The facts surrounding the shooting are much smaller in scope.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23463 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:53 am to
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The new anti-filming law in LA, which is probably unconstitutional, creates a 21-foot barrier.


That was a banger of a thread too. Small government types arguing that if you're within 21 feet of an officer, he has a legal force field that prevents filming.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
54992 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:53 am to
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What specifically was the interference? Blowing a whistle?


The guy inserting himself between officers and ladies
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
12715 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:53 am to
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99.999999% of the time they don't/won't. It's only when you do something stupid and become a risk to public safety that it happens.

Like being unarmed face down in the street surrounded by government agents after getting your arse beat by them?
This post was edited on 1/25/26 at 8:54 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:53 am to
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It went from 0 to 100 in the matter of seconds.


This is the part that keeps being ignored.

LEO creates this chaos without any justification and then that happens.
Posted by Federal Tiger
Connecticut
Member since Dec 2007
8070 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:53 am to
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Not relevant to the discussion of this being a good shoot or not


Slow, not sure I agree with this. The underlying cause of what is happening (chaos / riots / protesting) in MN is stand down and non-support of local law enforcement with CBP / ICE. Compound this with the organization of agitators and people believing they have a right to interfere.......not a good recipe at all.

It is very much relevant to the scene that was set.....and still taking place today.
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
17529 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:53 am to
Seems like ICE should take a step back let shite calm down. They know the situation is volatile and dangerous. It's dangerous for them and for the idiots (who are mostly American citizens) out protesting.

I don't like seeing the protesters or ICE agents hurt and hopefully the situation calms down.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:54 am to
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The guy inserting himself between officers and ladies

The question is about the lady who was shoved, not the reaction to the cops acting improperly (possibly illegally)
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