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re: Border Patrol-involved shooting in Minneapolis; person shot was allegedly armed
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:14 pm to ReauxlTide222
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:14 pm to ReauxlTide222
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I do understand. I’d say he was probably maced because he wasn’t listening. But listening to what? The officer doesn’t seem to be giving any clear orders from what I’ve heard.
You are right. He had no clue what the officers wanted? Right? No idea
He interjected himself out of no where, into an officer involved situation. Because he is a good guy? lol. Yes that’s exactly it. Because he is just a random guy filming random officers in a random location.
If you pulled your head out of the democrats arse, the guy knowingly interjected himself into a situation. He had no reason to do that, but to be a pain in the arse. I could tell you exactly what the officers wanted without hearing shite, they wanted him to walk away.
But you are right, he had no idea because it was unclear. That’s why I suggest to everyone to bring a gun into an officer involved situation and plan to have once what the officers could possibly want you to do.
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Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:14 pm to tylercsbn9
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It is still being done pretty competently everywhere else but Minnesota. Why is that?
Nothing should be discussed until this is answered sincerely.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:15 pm to baldona
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the guy knowingly interjected himself into a situation.
This does not come into consideration when determining if lethal force is justified.
This is literally all that matters
quote:
Subd. 2.Use of deadly force. (a) Notwithstanding the provisions of section 609.06 or 609.065, the use of deadly force by a peace officer in the line of duty is justified only if an objectively reasonable officer would believe, based on the totality of the circumstances known to the officer at the time and without the benefit of hindsight, that such force is necessary:
(1) to protect the peace officer or another from death or great bodily harm, provided that the threat:
(i) can be articulated with specificity;
(ii) is reasonably likely to occur absent action by the law enforcement officer; and
(iii) must be addressed through the use of deadly force without unreasonable delay; or
(2) to effect the arrest or capture, or prevent the escape, of a person whom the peace officer knows or has reasonable grounds to believe has committed or attempted to commit a felony and the officer reasonably believes that the person will cause death or great bodily harm to another person under the threat criteria in clause (1), items (i) to (iii), unless immediately apprehended.
(b) A peace officer shall not use deadly force against a person based on the danger the person poses to self if an objectively reasonable officer would believe, based on the totality of the circumstances known to the officer at the time and without the benefit of hindsight, that the person does not pose a threat of death or great bodily harm to the peace officer or to another under the threat criteria in paragraph (a), clause (1), items (i) to (iii).
if the officers weren't under threat of death or great bodily harm, it isn't a good shoot under the law
This post was edited on 1/24/26 at 5:16 pm
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:15 pm to sgallo3
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exactly. And resisting doesn't justify use of deadly force anyway. the only justification of lethal force in minnesota is if the person shot is when the officers are in threat of death or great bodily harm.
I’m flipping news channels as I’m watching this. More and more videos are coming out. Every video shows that the ice officer removed the gun before he was shot.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:15 pm to GRTiger
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Nothing should be discussed until this is answered sincerely.
They wont answer it. Because there isn't an answer that doesn't paint them in a poor light.
Today was completely inevitable with the way the left has been riled up to a fever pitch about ICE. It will happen again. Just as eventually some nut is going to shot a few ice agents. Although that has already been attempted but the moron shot detainees instead.
This post was edited on 1/24/26 at 5:18 pm
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:16 pm to baldona
None of what you said justified opening fire on a disarmed guy who is faced down on the payment held down by multiple officers.
I mean that was dangerous because he could have accidentally shot a teammate.
Think man
I mean that was dangerous because he could have accidentally shot a teammate.
Think man
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:16 pm to Ingeniero
I have never had an opinion on it because I never fully watched or investigated the video.
You can keep trying your gotcha attempt, and my answer will be the same. I won't give you an opinion on something I didn't care enough about at the time to watch, so I certainly am not going to dive into it now just to answer your gotcha attempt.
My answer is unchanged; I have never defended her.
You can keep trying your gotcha attempt, and my answer will be the same. I won't give you an opinion on something I didn't care enough about at the time to watch, so I certainly am not going to dive into it now just to answer your gotcha attempt.
My answer is unchanged; I have never defended her.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:16 pm to Stidham8
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They’re incapable of rational thought even when the video shows the evidence.
It’s all as if a guy who brought a loaded gun with two extra magazines was pure as the driven snow.
?
He had plenty of oppourtunities to shoot an agent before the video kicked off, he didnt. Even after he was maced. I wouldnt assume he had the gun for that reason. We never see any evidence of him going for his weapon. Seems like a stretch to be okay with "he had a gun therefor bad"--plenty of people have had guns on them and dont get shot by law enforcement while being dumbasses. Just continue to piss away our rights to the state I guess.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:17 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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I’m flipping news channels as I’m watching this. More and more videos are coming out. Every video shows that the ice officer removed the gun before he was shot.
That gun may still be the first shot. It's got a reputation for firing with no trigger pull. May have went off in the hand of the ICE agent that took it.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:17 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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quote:
exactly. And resisting doesn't justify use of deadly force anyway. the only justification of lethal force in minnesota is if the person shot is when the officers are in threat of death or great bodily harm.
I’m flipping news channels as I’m watching this. More and more videos are coming out. Every video shows that the ice officer removed the gun before he was shot.
so they will have to prove that he was a deadly/great harm threat at the time of the shot with an object other than his own gun that was removed
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:17 pm to tylercsbn9
I know. It's wild they do it as we literally point and say hey you're doing that retarded thing and we see it. I used to get it but I honestly don't anymore. Who just wants to live in idiocy? It's crazy to me.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:18 pm to Dam Guide
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May have went off in the hand of the ICE agent that took it.
that would actually make the case worse for the officers because it would show that the other ICE agent was a bigger threat than the perp
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:19 pm to sgallo3
Looks like the first shot came from the suspect
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Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:19 pm to sgallo3
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those things aren't calculated in whether or not lethal force is authorized
Why are people so dense?
Lethal force wouldn't be happening if democrat politicians weren't telling their lemmings to resist and calling ICE gestapo etc.
If democrats treated ICE now like they did under Obama and Clinton NONE OF THIS WOULD BE HAPPENING.
ICE would be enforcing the law peacefully as they have for decades.
This post was edited on 1/24/26 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:20 pm to YStar
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So if a radical leftist gets in office then uses these same ICE hit squads to create the police state to enforce their control.... what then??
This was cute fiction
We had ICE under 2 democrat administrations
This post was edited on 1/24/26 at 5:21 pm
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:20 pm to sgallo3
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those things aren't calculated in whether or not lethal force is authorized.
No one gets shot if they don't interfere and make LEO have to make a split-second decision
I have had good and bad interactions with LEO, and one of the dumbest people I know is a LEO and is in charge of the K9 unit. I will never put myself in a situation to let an idiot like him decide my fate.
I would especially never do it to save some rapist and predators like ICE has been going after first on their list
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:21 pm to stout
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I have never had an opinion on it because I never fully watched or investigated the video.
You can keep trying your gotcha attempt, and my answer will be the same. I won't give you an opinion on something I didn't care enough about at the time to watch, so I certainly am not going to dive into it now just to answer your gotcha attempt.
My answer is unchanged; I have never defended her.
You sure about that? You called it a "murder" and took issue with someone saying it was a FAFO in 2023:
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Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:21 pm to sgallo3
You posted the statute - that’s not exactly the standard.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:22 pm to stout
quote:Man I just don’t see where yall can say that
At some point, it turned into them trying to arrest him and he clearly resisted. He was fighting and resisting 7 or 8 officers while carrying.
He is resisting getting the piss best out of him
I never seen the agents really ever attempt to arrest him in any normal manner
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:23 pm to tgrgrd00
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Lethal force wouldn't be happening if democrat politicians weren't telling their lemmings to resist and calling ICE gestapo etc.
Jfc
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