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re: Border Patrol-involved shooting in Minneapolis; person shot was allegedly armed
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:23 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:23 pm to lsupride87
I'll say it this way, as 2a carry guy, I would absolutely have not died in this situation. And it isn't because of my politics.
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Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:24 pm to hansenthered1
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Looks like the first shot came from the suspect
no. they edited that video specifically when the officer in the blackmask and tan sleeves pulling out his gun and shooting is behind the suspect so you cant see his gun which would be firing at that trajectory. watch the full clip starting around 55 seconds and you see its the officer pulling his gun and shooting
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Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:25 pm to Ingeniero
Yea that was during the primary, and I went pretty hard on Ron for a lot of crap he said despite the fact that I like Ron.
I honestly don't have any opinion if it was justified or not. I have literally never watched a video of it.
I would own up to it if so.
I honestly don't have any opinion if it was justified or not. I have literally never watched a video of it.
I would own up to it if so.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:26 pm to whatiknowsofar
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Lethal force wouldn't be happening if democrat politicians weren't telling their lemmings to resist and calling ICE gestapo etc.
Jfc
You keep posting this.
Idk why you think it makes any kind of point.
Why don't you dispute my post if it's so out there? Are you asserting that my post is untrue?
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:26 pm to stout
When "moderates" force you to pick a side, I think we can guess the score.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:27 pm to DarkDrifter
quote:I hear you, but I’m very iffy on that being him shooting first.
One of these unverified videos looks as if he did and possibly even fired the first round. So I’ll hold my final judgement until all the facts come out.
If it is, great.
If it’s not, this is really bad.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:28 pm to tgrgrd00
I see some people fricking with agents. Not physically, but annoying the hell out of them and impeding their work
I then see the agents get pissed of and immediately go to pushing the shite out of the female instantly and macing the man
From that point on the man falls and is disoriented and then the group beating begins
I never ever see what I would consider a routine arrest attempt. I see a frustrated arse whipping and then murder
If more videos etc come out I’ll pivot. But based on what I currently can see now that is my opinion
I also think the crazy lesbian case is completely different and was 100% a justified shoot
I then see the agents get pissed of and immediately go to pushing the shite out of the female instantly and macing the man
From that point on the man falls and is disoriented and then the group beating begins
I never ever see what I would consider a routine arrest attempt. I see a frustrated arse whipping and then murder
If more videos etc come out I’ll pivot. But based on what I currently can see now that is my opinion
I also think the crazy lesbian case is completely different and was 100% a justified shoot
This post was edited on 1/24/26 at 5:29 pm
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:28 pm to lsupride87
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I never seen the agents really ever attempt to arrest him in any normal manner
I have watched a ton of resisting body cams. People with adrenaline pumping are hard to contain and it takes a long time to get one where they can slap cuffs on them. This was seconds vs some of the arrests taking minutes. They never really had control of him in that short time.
Women amped up can give 5 or 6 cops a tough time, much more so a young man in shape like this guy was.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:31 pm to tgrgrd00
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Idk why you think it makes any kind of point.
Why don't you dispute my post if it's so out there? Are you asserting that my post is untrue?
You are so deluded at this juncture my man you arent worth it
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:32 pm to stout
You think the best thing to do is immediately run over and two hand shove someone to the ground? Thats absolutely can’t be procedure 
It allows the person to grab a gun from the ground etc. The agent didn’t tackle or even try to cuff the woman. Just a full fledge im pissed off and want to shove your arse to the ground
It allows the person to grab a gun from the ground etc. The agent didn’t tackle or even try to cuff the woman. Just a full fledge im pissed off and want to shove your arse to the ground
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:32 pm to tgrgrd00
quote:
Republican's are enforcing the law. That's the most blue sky post I've ever seen. Holy shite.
it is spectacular
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:32 pm to tgrgrd00
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Why don't you dispute my post if it's so out there? Are you asserting that my post is untrue?
He can't
That dude is another one who tries to play moderate on here because he's too embarrassed to admit he's a flaming liberal. Completely dishonest
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:32 pm to lsupride87
quote:
I then see the agents get pissed of and immediately go to pushing the shite out of the female instantly and macing the man
Is there video of what was happening before? I know the DHS statement said they were there to arrest an illegal charged with domestic violence but I've only seen the angle with the woman, the agent, and the deceased. Were the deceased and the woman involved with impeding the arrest?
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:32 pm to GRTiger
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It is still being done pretty competently everywhere else but Minnesota. Why is that?
Nothing should be discussed until this is answered sincerely.
I think this answers it perfectly. Too bad it's a Fakebook video. This needs to be seen by everyone. Scott Lobaido
This post was edited on 1/24/26 at 5:34 pm
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:32 pm to stout
Dude bc they’re shoving people and tackling them and throwing haymakers in ice
He would have been easy af to arrest had they tried
What they did was retarded. They might pay dearly for it.
He would have been easy af to arrest had they tried
What they did was retarded. They might pay dearly for it.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:33 pm to Ingeniero
Here is a gif I made. I’ll try to link a better video.
All 3 have their feet tangled. Mostly bc the ICE guy is yeeting fools.
I need to see some damn video of the deceased doing something threatening or I’m calling this some type of murder or criminal shooting.
This post was edited on 1/24/26 at 5:36 pm
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:34 pm to lsupride87
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You think the best thing to do is immediately run over and two hand shove someone to the ground? Thats absolutely can’t be procedure
It is questionable but we have no idea what happened prior
quote:
Under federal regulations (8 CFR § 287.8):
Agents must use the minimum non-deadly force necessary to accomplish their mission.
They may escalate force only when justified by the other person’s conduct, apparent intentions, and capabilities
LINK
This post was edited on 1/24/26 at 5:35 pm
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:35 pm to ReauxlTide222
They could have instantly cuffed him. He is raising his hand in defeat
They didn’t want to just arrest him though. They wanted some flesh
They didn’t want to just arrest him though. They wanted some flesh
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:35 pm to stout
quote:
minimum
Thats pretty crucial.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:35 pm to whatiknowsofar
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You are so deluded at this juncture my man you arent worth it
Oh ok
So I'm deluded for thinking democrats have stoked the flames against ICE because it's Trump when previously they had no problems with ICE when Obama and Clinton did the exact same? Even going so far as to praise ICE operations under Obama.
But I'm too deluded for any but a jfc.
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