re: Best military vehicle not made in the US?

Toyota Hilux

Not so fast my friend…Ukraine did not receive American spec tanks with depleted uranium armor. They were also used to plug a hole without any support to include infantry, air defense, and artillery which resulted in their easy destruction from suicide drones.

It took us years to analyze the 1973 Yom Kippur War and the findings were not as groundbreaking as we originally thought in the immediate cease fire. Many experts concluded just after 1973 that tanks were “dead” thanks to advanced ATGMs. Technology is just around the corner to counter the UAV threat. Like always, the balance between offense and defense swings back and forth.

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That’s true but just like the Abrams they were down armored and the latest gen tech had been removed.

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Yeah, they got the old export version from the 80s.

Every tank on that ground has had a good number destroyed. When they are being used the way both sides have been using them, they're a giant target any time they start to maneuver.

Are we talking current or historical? Because Id argue that historically the MiG-21 had biggest impact, being exported in huge numbers, but easy to maintain and fly, giving third world air forces first world capabilities.

Swedes always had awesomely weird designs though. The Draken. The Viggen. And you should see the stuff that DIDNT make it into production.

I know. It's not just the Swedes though. Dassault loves their delta-wing planes. That's a French company. FN had a run where they were designing bullpups for different military contracts all the time. HK (Germans are notorious for building weird shite) had the weird G11 they designed for the competition that the M4 won.

The Euros just love some weird shite.

Does it come with a free year for Sirus XM?

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Russia tore a few of those up in Ukraine, I believe

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No tank is invincible. The Leo 2A7 is probably the best MBT in the world Abrams included. The question is whether you would rather be on the battlefield in a Leo or a T72/80/90. If you say any of the latter, you are a fool or have a death wish.

There is the horses for courses argument and there are terrain scenarios where a Txx tank will have an advantage due to certain characteristics like weight, but in general, the Western tanks are superior.

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. It may not have had the greatest impact, but it certainly has played a role in conflicts and the impact of conflicts across the globe.

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I'd say it has had one of the greatest impacts simply due to its longevity and the sheer number that have been produced when including all of the variants of the original design. They have probably been involved in every conflict on the face of the earth since it's inception.