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re: Being a teacher doesn't sound like a bad gig

Posted on 1/31/18 at 3:31 pm to
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124694 posts
Posted on 1/31/18 at 3:31 pm to
It’s perfect for married women with children

Great health benefits
This post was edited on 1/31/18 at 3:32 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112596 posts
Posted on 1/31/18 at 3:32 pm to
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Ghetto schools may pay half that. Maybe.


No. Basic high schools pay 50-55k here

Specialty schools pay greater

This post was edited on 1/31/18 at 3:34 pm
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8720 posts
Posted on 1/31/18 at 3:33 pm to
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She makes 45k a year salary


I didn’t realize teachers made that much. I thought they didn’t make more than 30k a year. Become a coach and a teacher


Move to a place like the Chicago area (both city and suburbs) or New Jersey, and it gets bumped up like $70 - 75K per year on average.

Teacher compensation is also a big reason why some of our cities and states are going broke.
Posted by Flanders
Member since May 2008
9966 posts
Posted on 1/31/18 at 3:37 pm to
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Yeah, she will never be rich
Why can't she ever be rich or wealthy?
Posted by Jp1LSU
Fiji
Member since Oct 2005
2542 posts
Posted on 1/31/18 at 3:39 pm to
$45k is really the very bottom of the range. A NJ newspaper posted this past year that there are over 1,000 public school teachers making $100k (teachers not administrators) and some making more than $150k.
Depending on the state pay varies.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37551 posts
Posted on 1/31/18 at 3:40 pm to
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You think teachers stop working when school hours are done?


So like most any job except those don't get summer off?

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Not to mention, the 3-4 hrs of grading papers and getting the next class prepared everynight


This is BS. My sister is a teacher too, and she works on that stuff maybe an hour to two max.

Being a teacher would be shitty. I would never want to deal with kids all day, but let's not act like they are working all night every night.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112596 posts
Posted on 1/31/18 at 3:41 pm to
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$45k is really the very bottom of the range
People on TD, always grossly underestimate the pay of teachers, because most of us being from south LA went to private schools, where the pay is very low.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61611 posts
Posted on 1/31/18 at 3:41 pm to
I bet you wouldn't last more than a semester as a teacher.
Posted by TDcline
American Gardens building 11th flor
Member since Aug 2015
9504 posts
Posted on 1/31/18 at 3:41 pm to
My wife teaches at one of the better public schools in our area and ever day she talks to me about getting out of it.

I subbed a time or two for extra cash while in college and I can tell you that it’s absolutely terrible. Teaching might be ok if we still lived in the 50s/60s society where kids and parents weren’t complete pieces of shite like today, but you couldn’t pay me enough to be a teacher today.

Parents don’t want a teacher, they want a babysitter. Their kid isn’t behaving or is failing? Well, it’s the teacher’s fault, not precious little innocent Lucy.

Combine that with an administration that will frick you over in a heartbeat, data entry, test scores, piloting, duty assignments, etc

I’ll have a big plate of frick THAT shite
Posted by Jp1LSU
Fiji
Member since Oct 2005
2542 posts
Posted on 1/31/18 at 3:47 pm to
I always hear people claim teachers bitch but I don’t really ever see it. If anything I think most teachers realize it’s a pretty easy gig. For the most part a teacher works 5 hours a day 180 days per year. There’s plenty of room for growth and a retirement pay at the end.
Posted by Evil Little Thing
Member since Jul 2013
11638 posts
Posted on 1/31/18 at 3:51 pm to
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No. Basic high schools pay 50-55k here


Hmm. This has EBR teachers starting at $40,825, not $50k. Unless they got a significant bump this year.

LINK

Regardless, I did underestimate.
This post was edited on 1/31/18 at 3:52 pm
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14688 posts
Posted on 1/31/18 at 3:57 pm to
Nobody seems to factor in the time teachers spend doing the things that have to be done. You hear that 8.5 to 9 months a year all the time, but do you hear about the 10-11 hour days they put in during that 9 months?

Do you realize that the mountain of worksheets, study guides, tests, practice tests, and homework your kid comes home with, for the most part has to be graded?

Do you realize that once graded, all that information has to be loaded into the computer so that report cards can be generated? Each paper, each grade, each kid.

Do you realize that during the summer, teachers are required to attend classes and seminars to maintain their credentials? That usually accounts for at least two weeks.

My wife averages 10 to 10.5 hours per day, not including duties like making sure none of them kill each other on the way to the bus twice a week. At 10 hours per day, that's roughly 2000 hours per year. A normal worker doing 8 hours per day puts in 2080 hours in a year. So my wife puts in roughly 96% of the average worker's hours, in 9 months.

I don't think teachers have the right to complain, as they should have known what they were getting into, but people need to try to understand the facts of the matter, and appreciate what they do.

When you factor in having to deal with 20-30 kids for 6 or 7 hours per day, at least for me twice the pay, and twice the time off wouldn't be enough.
Posted by BrohemAlem11
Ratchet City, LA
Member since Oct 2014
13923 posts
Posted on 1/31/18 at 3:59 pm to
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I don't think teachers have the right to complain, as they should have known what they were getting into


this will always be my main point in this argument
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14688 posts
Posted on 1/31/18 at 4:15 pm to
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this will always be my main point in this argument


100% agree, but then a few years back my wife had a kid that literally shite himself multiple times, sitting in the classroom. I'm not talking kindergarten, she is a 4th grade teacher. Kid shite so much, it came up out of the back of his pants, while sitting in a classroom with 25 other kids. Happened about once a week all year.

She had a kid of divorced parents, where the dad took to watching porn with his 4th grade son. Kid tried to molest every girl he came in contact with.

More abuse and neglect through drugs and just generally being piece of shite parents than I can mention.

Do you think you could honestly prepare for shite like that?
Posted by BrohemAlem11
Ratchet City, LA
Member since Oct 2014
13923 posts
Posted on 1/31/18 at 4:30 pm to
No...so find another job.

I superviser an Autism clinic... all the things you describe would be a dream day for what my therapist deal with. When they come to me saying how rough whatever is happening is enough times I eventually have to have the...maybe this isn't for you talk.

My job is also why I have ZERO sympathy for teachers who want to complain. We deal with things most teacher could never imagine. I've been physically assaulted to the point of thinking...damn if someone doesn't come help me soon I'm going to be in the ER, I've dealt with 18 year olds who shite themseleves... shite on the floor..smear their shite!! We don't get summers off, only get one day off for Christmas and Thanksgiving etc. Our Clinic is open for 9 1/2 hours a day and then there is notes to type, materials to prepare, CEU's to take etc...

So when a teacher complains about their job... yea... no sympathy...sorry
This post was edited on 1/31/18 at 4:34 pm
Posted by Radler_the_weinerdog
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2016
1482 posts
Posted on 1/31/18 at 4:36 pm to
You are fricking off your rocker.
Posted by Bama323_15
Member since Jan 2013
2100 posts
Posted on 1/31/18 at 4:42 pm to
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scott8811


Truly a calling you have.

But your description of your day could be interpreted as the type of complaining that you are complaining about.

Does not take away from what you do. We all complain, we are human. If the complaining becomes a pattern then yes find something else to do regardless of your job or profession.

Good luck in your position.

Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
45338 posts
Posted on 1/31/18 at 4:44 pm to
I don’t think teaching is a bad gig. The pay is solid and there are a lot of perks. There are also some things that are a pain to deal with. It is what it is. I too have no sympathy for anyone, including you. I have taught for 23 years. When it’s time for me to go in a different direction job wise, I will. I would imagine that you will as well. As for knowing what you signed up for, there is no way to truly know. The government is seemingly designing guidelines on the fly sometimes. Such is life I suppose. You have to adapt or do something different. I like what I do... for now. When the day comes where that is not the case, then I’m out. Peace.
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
22083 posts
Posted on 1/31/18 at 4:45 pm to
a thread complaining about teachers complaining. how original.
Posted by TheHardyBadger
Panhandle
Member since Feb 2012
298 posts
Posted on 1/31/18 at 4:49 pm to
I taught English and coached football for 6 years. The schedule is great, but everything else sucks.
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