re: Autism among the Amish people

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It is our food system. The food we eat is altered with chemicals every step of the way from growth, processing, storage, and preparation. You could potentially argue a few other factors but this is the most likely to deliver something en masse.



so just to be clear...its your contention that the Amish, who grow and process their own food the same way they have for decades are seeing an increase in autism from chemicals in the modern food system?

just wanted to be clear here....

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I suggest you go back and read the OP & results of the study. Then re-read the post you replied to.

Then I would suggest that you, lsu777:

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go get tested for autism

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Our food is hosed down with chemicals to kill bacteria. It ends up in our stomach where there are tons of good bacteria that produce proteins for the rest of the body. One of those proteins is used in the synapses of our nervous system.

When these good gut bacteria are killed or suppressed by chemicals our body can't produce those necessary proteins which leads to all sorts of neurological and neuromuscular disfunction.

Just kidding. Our food is perfectly safe. Just ask the FDA

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When these good gut bacteria are killed or suppressed by chemicals our body can't produce those necessary proteins which leads to all sorts of neurological and neuromuscular disfunction.

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I think this is probably the closest to the cause I've read about. From what I have seen, gut health is the strongest indicator of autism. There have been cases were "gut transplants" effectively treated it in individuals:

Study: LINK

Results: LINK

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In this small group of children, investigators reported that GI symptoms and ASD behaviors improved. The improvements lasted until the first follow up 8 weeks after finishing the therapy. Two years later, autism symptoms were still better. The transplanted microbiome also was still present.

One drawback to this study is that it was “open label.” Everyone knew that they were getting the treatment. There was not a comparison group who did not receive any treatment. Open label studies are known to have a strong “placebo effect.” To really know if a therapy works, a study needs to compare two groups. One group gets treated, and the other group gets a” fake” treatment. Ideally, no one would know who is treated and who is not treated. In treating ASD, these types of “blinded” studies are very important. The researchers themselves point out that blinded studies need to look at each step of the transplant process to know if MTT truly changes ASD symptoms and behaviors. Open label studies are well known to show positive results to only later show that is was primarily a placebo effect.

We can only recommend treatments that have enough studies showing evidence that the treatments are safe, that they work, and which people they will work for. Researchers can and should try to repeat and broaden this study to find out if MTT meets this standard. Until then, fecal transplants are experimental for autism.

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vaccines do carry the risk of autism.

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No, they don’t. The study that myth derived from has been debunked 1000 times over, it was put out by a grifter who went to prison for fraud and was never taken seriously by the actual medical community

sauce?

Maybe they are just continuously broadening the definition of autism which causes more people to fit into the description

I have seen some disturbing studies about the rise in plant based oils and corn syrup. It is odd, because I remember as a kid in the 70s two kids who could never have candy with corn syrup in them. Both these kid's fathers were doctors. They were not allergic to it, their parents would simply not allow it.

I never knew anyone with ADHD until I got to college in the 80s.

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I actually wish someone did, because I have a wife (no pics) who doesn’t want to give our infant all those vaccines. I think it’s like 70ish now.
I’ve read a few books from both sides, so I’m torn. I think it’s entirely too many and we have mutually eliminated a few that he definitely will not get.

I really hate this world, the time we live in and the amount of shite we have to worry about with raising a child. I didn’t want to have kids in this climate, I was set on more dogs, but things happen and now he’s the greatest gift of our lives.

I’m sure I’m not the only one.

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If I were you I would get recommendations from (reasonably)as many other parents as you can with children say 5 to 10 years old on their choice of a Pediatrician and why they recommend them. Parents in that age group would have already started to see the results of their choices of treatment. Then choose a Physician and go in for a consultation. Their is nothing like a competent expert on the frontlines who directly sees the results of their work.

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The Amish try to avoid using modern medicine as much as possible and when they do decide to use a doctor they will charter a van to drive to a doctor that is "approved." The Amish that I worked with would send all the men in their family with hernias 300+ miles in a van so they could all be taken care of at the same time.

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+1
The report mentions further studies are underway due to the reporting style and cultural differences of the caregivers to the children diagnosed with ASD.

I'd have to think those cultural differences are vast among the tightly closed Amish caregivers and the regular caregiver population as a whole.

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Now every fricking kid is on the spectrum

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That’s kinda how spectrums work.