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Assuming most new cars will be EV's by 2030...how to future proof a new home's garage?

Posted on 2/5/21 at 11:01 am
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 2/5/21 at 11:01 am
How many outlets and how many amps would be required? I read somewhere that 100 amps per parking space (example - 3 if it's a 3 car garage), but that seems excessive. I do imagine that at least a 50 amp outlet somewhere outside the garage for cars parked outside might be needed.

For those of you with newer EV's or those of you that understand this topic....how would you wire up a 3 car garage if you could potentially have up to 3 EV's in 10-20 years?

Other than additional outlets, what else would need to be done to future proof a new home for this additional electricity demand?

ETA: If this is more appropriate for the Home/Garden board, please move it there.
This post was edited on 2/5/21 at 11:05 am
Posted by Notnac
Vidalia
Member since Nov 2020
881 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 11:02 am to
That's a bold assumption
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26608 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 11:04 am to
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That's a bold assumption



I think my next vehicle, which will be a cheap pickup truck, will probably be the last ICE vehicle I ever buy. I will try to keep it forever, but most of the new engineering and investment by the big auto companies are going into EV's.
Posted by jlovel7
NOT Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
24078 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 11:04 am to
I’m pretty terrified my ability to run my home on gas/natural gas will be prohibited in case of power outages due to storms and hurricanes. Entergy can barely keep the lights on as it is.

If I lose power today it’s no sweat because I have an independent way to power my needs in a pinch. The further we move away from gas less my options are to keep my power on in an emergency.
Posted by mark65mc
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
11536 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 11:05 am to
Don't worry about it. We'll all have Mr. Fusion retrofits by then.

Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105312 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 11:06 am to
If the power is out the gas pumps won't work anyway
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
20204 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 11:06 am to
You’d just be guessing. I’d say cross that bridge when you get to it.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26608 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 11:06 am to
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If I lose power today it’s no sweat because I have an independent way to power my needs in a pinch. The further we move away from gas less my options are to keep my power on in an emergency.


I guess you can spend a fortune on a solar panel array if you wanted to, but the folks I know with them in Chicago almost never produce enough juice to power the home and have to rely on the electrical grid. Louisiana has slightly longer days, so it may be different.

Is geothermal an option down there? Some people in Memphis had that when I lived in that area.

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I’m pretty terrified my ability to run my home on gas/natural gas will be prohibited in case of power outages due to storms and hurricanes. Entergy can barely keep the lights on as it is.


It's a concern. People use gas a lot for cooking so there will likely always be that service in our lifetimes. It just may become much more expensive if they clamp down on the energy industry.
This post was edited on 2/5/21 at 11:09 am
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26608 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 11:07 am to
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You’d just be guessing. I’d say cross that bridge when you get to it.



Building a new house soon. Was going to give it a shot. I really like the Tesla Model X.
This post was edited on 2/5/21 at 11:08 am
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15752 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 11:08 am to
quote:

how would you wire up a 3 car garage if you could potentially have up to 3 EV's in 10-20 years?


Posted by Pintail
Member since Nov 2011
12075 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 11:08 am to
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I read somewhere that 100 amps per parking space (example - 3 if it's a 3 car garage)


Yea that's going to get interesting. Most modern homes have 200amp panels service wires. Older homes may only have 100 amp panels.
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
36158 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 11:08 am to
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Building a new house soon. Was going to give it a shot. I really like the Tesla Model X.



I think the "special" home charger for the Teslas requires a 220V hookup, just build one out like you would for a washer/dryer.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30352 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 11:09 am to
Do what you want bruh.

I'm not buying an electric car in the next 9 years.

what if you park on the street? We just gonna have big arse wires everywhere? Is the electrical infrastructure ready for the enormous increase in power?

It's just a stupid statement made by idiot elected officials to think this is feasible.



Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
74889 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 11:09 am to
I have an unused 100 Amp service already in my garage, the folks who originally built the house had a electric kiln in the garage.

A completely electric car would work for me for at least 95% of my travel.

The other 5% I could either make alternative arrangements or deal with recharging mid trip.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26608 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 11:10 am to
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what if you park on the street?


Better find a friend with an electrical socket and a long extension chord.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26608 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 11:11 am to
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I have an unused 100 Amp service already in my garage, the folks who originally built the house had a electric kiln in the garage.



Do you think it would require 100 amp service to every parking bay? Would 50 amp suffice?
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74872 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 11:11 am to
I know who you voted for
Posted by belowmebama
Member since Jul 2008
7347 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 11:12 am to
Don’t forget the whole house generator that will be needed for power outages.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26608 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 11:14 am to
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I know who you voted for



I may have been a registered Democrat for the last 10 years and I may own a Subaru station wagon (with a Thule) and a Volvo. But don't assume I'm stupid enough to vote for any authoritarian prick that wants to cripple our nation and eliminate rights. I also owned a shite load of guns before that last tragic boating accident and I grew up in a neighborhood of plant workers, cops, and mechanics.

Recognizing the direction we are headed isn't the same as embracing it.

Not saying I like the idea of people being forced to spend a fortune on electricity and vehicles because of some political war against the oil and gas industry. But it's clear that all of the big car companies are spending much more on EV's than ICE cars right now. The new car market will reflect that in a few years. The coolest, nicest new cars will be EV's very soon.
This post was edited on 2/5/21 at 3:58 pm
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 11:16 am to
I think the current Tesla charger maxes out at 48 Amps. It’ll work with much less, albeit slower.

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