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re: Assuming most new cars will be EV's by 2030...how to future proof a new home's garage?
Posted on 2/6/21 at 5:08 am to jmarto1
Posted on 2/6/21 at 5:08 am to jmarto1
We have had a Chevy Volt (plug in hybrid) for 5 years, a Chevy Bolt (all electric) for 3. For the garage, we had a 220V, 50 amp circuit with a Nema 14-50 plug. The charger is a Clipper Creek 32 amp unit. It can charge the Bolt from near empty to full in 8 hours. The Volt uses a 110V trickle charger that gets it to full overnight. Clipper Creek also makes a duel plug unit that charges two cars at half amps if both are plugged in, and full amps if one is plugged in.
For a three car garage, I would recommend 2 50 amp circuits terminating at a 14-50 plug for the chargers and get one duel charger and a single charger.
Before we bought the Bolt, we downloaded our trip data from On Star from the Volt, and in 1 year, we made 1 trip where we would run out of juice from a full charge if we had the Bolt. We traded in our oil tanker Armada for the Bolt. For the 1 or 2 long trips we make per year, we rent an SUV. Having a plug in hybrid and all electric works well for us.
With the Volt and Bolt, we have found that:
- you start the day with a full battery every day. Range anxiety is a non issue for us. My wife ( no pics) drives the Bolt, 12 mile commute each day
- I drive the Volt, about 100 miles of driving per day. My work has chargers so I plug in there to charge up after my morning commute. I’m at about 80% electric driving on the Volt.
- We love the smoothness and quiet of running all electric. They drive better.
- Things get weird with the Volt when the engine kicks in since it’s a generator and not a drive motor. RPM’s are often decoupled from what the car is actually doing.
- The driving experience is gamefied with the driving efficiency score. Anticipating hills, smart braking with the re-gen paddle, and a twisty, rolling road gets the highest scores.
- it’s criminal how GM didn’t expand the Volt drivetrain to more vehicles. An Equinox with the Volt drivetrain, and 30 miles of battery range would be the best selling car out there.
For a three car garage, I would recommend 2 50 amp circuits terminating at a 14-50 plug for the chargers and get one duel charger and a single charger.
Before we bought the Bolt, we downloaded our trip data from On Star from the Volt, and in 1 year, we made 1 trip where we would run out of juice from a full charge if we had the Bolt. We traded in our oil tanker Armada for the Bolt. For the 1 or 2 long trips we make per year, we rent an SUV. Having a plug in hybrid and all electric works well for us.
With the Volt and Bolt, we have found that:
- you start the day with a full battery every day. Range anxiety is a non issue for us. My wife ( no pics) drives the Bolt, 12 mile commute each day
- I drive the Volt, about 100 miles of driving per day. My work has chargers so I plug in there to charge up after my morning commute. I’m at about 80% electric driving on the Volt.
- We love the smoothness and quiet of running all electric. They drive better.
- Things get weird with the Volt when the engine kicks in since it’s a generator and not a drive motor. RPM’s are often decoupled from what the car is actually doing.
- The driving experience is gamefied with the driving efficiency score. Anticipating hills, smart braking with the re-gen paddle, and a twisty, rolling road gets the highest scores.
- it’s criminal how GM didn’t expand the Volt drivetrain to more vehicles. An Equinox with the Volt drivetrain, and 30 miles of battery range would be the best selling car out there.
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Posted on 2/6/21 at 6:54 am to dewster
you ever voting dem any time is a huge problem, how could you be so stupid
Posted on 2/6/21 at 8:45 am to Strannix
I want to get an EV for the wife, but they don't make a 3rd row mini-van EV that cost $30,000. The closest that I can find that matches the size we need is a Tesla Model X. Yea, I ain't $80,000. 
Once prices come down and sizes comes up, I'll hop in.
Once prices come down and sizes comes up, I'll hop in.
Posted on 2/6/21 at 9:05 am to dewster
There are going to be a lot of people crying when EV owners finally have to start paying road taxes and suddenly they no longer make sense.....
Posted on 2/6/21 at 10:18 am to evil cockroach
quote:Model Y has a 3rd row for much cheaper.
I want to get an EV for the wife, but they don't make a 3rd row mini-van EV that cost $30,000. The closest that I can find that matches the size we need is a Tesla Model X. Yea, I ain't $80,000.
Once prices come down and sizes comes up, I'll hop in.
The last row is pretty small, but if it's mainly for kids, it's more than enough room.
Posted on 2/6/21 at 10:42 am to Obtuse1
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As a side note one of the things I always come back to is the US competitive advantage in EVs. The more we push back against EVs in the US the more we cede the competitive advantage to countries like China. Member when the US refused to redirect toward smaller more fuel-efficient cars like the Japanese were importing because they were a joke and no 'Merican would buy them? Yeah, I member.
Very good point. We lag in the cell tech at the moment but Tesla is leading the way in control, conditioning and automation. I also expect to see some cool things from Rivian and a few others soon.
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