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re: As we approach 20 years since Katrina, a reminder that it wasn't just New Orleans
Posted on 8/10/25 at 3:55 pm to fightin tigers
Posted on 8/10/25 at 3:55 pm to fightin tigers
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People really need to refresh their timeline. The levees broke before 6am day of.
There is a narrative now that it was a sunny day with a few tree limbs down the day after the storm until the levees broke. The levees being blowing up is all the rage now.
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Posted on 8/10/25 at 4:02 pm to Meauxjeaux
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One could make a case that Houston got it much worse.
Posted on 8/10/25 at 6:54 pm to Tall Tiger
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The roof getting peeled off the Superdome, and all the windows getting blown out of the Hyatt would have still happened without the floodwall failures. Nola got walloped, certainly. But still, take away the floodwall failures and the story of Katrina turns out very different.
I’m talking about the “it was a day or so later the walls failed part” which is beyond incorrect.
Posted on 8/10/25 at 6:59 pm to The Boat
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I’m talking about the “it was a day or so later the walls failed part” which is beyond incorrect.
I think most people remember it that way because the news didn't start reporting it for so long.
Posted on 8/10/25 at 7:03 pm to fightin tigers
The levees broke early Monday morning
I remember like it was yesterday
I remember like it was yesterday
This post was edited on 8/11/25 at 7:15 am
Posted on 8/10/25 at 7:12 pm to SidewalkTiger
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I think most people remember it that way because the news didn't start reporting it for so long
Again, completely incorrect. Lead on national news the following day was New Orleans underwater showing levee breaches and rescues. They were shown all day on 24hr news channels.
World News reported levee breach that night (3:00 mark)
CBS 8/29/2005
No one knew how bad, but the water was there.
youtube ABC national news 8/30/2005
Shows breaches city totally flooded
This post was edited on 8/10/25 at 7:16 pm
Posted on 8/10/25 at 7:18 pm to udtiger
New Orleans was due to the Corps of Engineers ineptitude.
Posted on 8/10/25 at 7:31 pm to udtiger
Mississippi and St. Bernard were natural disasters. New Orleans was a human infrastructure failure.
Posted on 8/10/25 at 8:02 pm to Locoguan0
If you drive down the MS Coast today you will see that Alot of people discount that the next Katrina is out there. Yes it took a while for them to start rebuilding but once they started they have been rolling. It looks good now though
Posted on 8/10/25 at 8:11 pm to udtiger
My grandpa's sister in law passed away I think it was 2 or 3 weeks after Katrina. She lived in Bay St. Louis. In fact, her funeral was in a small black church, which was the only church in the area that only had minimal damage. There was still no electricity so of course there was no AC. And I remember him saying how he didn't see anything that bad when he was in WWII.
It really looked like a bomb was dropped on that area. The thing that hurt NO was the break in the levee. Those who took a direct his got wrecked.
It really looked like a bomb was dropped on that area. The thing that hurt NO was the break in the levee. Those who took a direct his got wrecked.
Posted on 8/10/25 at 8:37 pm to udtiger
We know.
Posted on 8/10/25 at 8:40 pm to udtiger
We had more deaths caused by the actual hurricane. The COE killled the people in New Orleans
Posted on 8/10/25 at 8:46 pm to The Boat
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The frick. 9th ward was flooded by 7:45 am. Both sides of the industrial canal broke by 8:30 am. London Avenue Canal broke at 9:30 am. 17th Street Canal broke at 11:50 am.
I remember foxnews had a correspondent on bourbon in the french quarter on monday late morning
they were saying that recovery and rescue efforts were ongoing and seemingly the worst had passed
by that afternoon the same reporter said water was rising in the northern and western parts of the french quarter and all hell was breaking loose
by that evening they were showing flooding all over the city from helicopters
Posted on 8/10/25 at 10:29 pm to udtiger
True but Mississippi had better leadership. So they put the rebuild to full use and look how much nice the coast is now.
Posted on 8/10/25 at 11:13 pm to TheHarahanian
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The western side of the eyewall did a good job on my house in Slidell. Winds tore off most of the roof and much of the siding.
Ida and Katrina should be a good reminder that East or West of the eye can frick up shite just as much.
Just look at Houma for Ida. They got the western eye wall.
Posted on 8/10/25 at 11:18 pm to uptowntiger84
Blanco asked for a billion dollars, which really ticked off bush and Congress.
Bush was going to screw Mississippi but Haley taught them a lesson in power politics.
Bush was going to screw Mississippi but Haley taught them a lesson in power politics.
Posted on 8/11/25 at 1:13 am to fightin tigers
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Again, completely incorrect. Lead on national news the following day was New Orleans underwater showing levee breaches and rescues. They were shown all day on 24hr news channels.
Exactly my point.
The national media didn't really start reporting on the levee breaches until the evening/night of the 29th/morning of the 30th, so a lot of people think it happened the next day or whatever.
Posted on 8/11/25 at 1:24 am to Tarps99
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Just look at Houma for Ida. They got the western eye wall.
Houma got most all of Ida's eye wall. It started out with the front right quadrant, Ida threw on the brakes as it slowed before starting its turn, damn near stalling, and the eye wall rode right over Houma as it made the turn. Eventually, they got the western eye wall and the back part of it, too.
Houma was hell during Ida. It never got in the eye, and was constant eye wall action until it began to pull off to the NNE. That eye wall was full of meso vorts, probably in part due to the change in storm motion. I remember seeing the first satellite imagery that came out of there, and the damage looked as much like tornado damage as it did hurricane damage.
Houma got absolutely raked for a while, and I wouldn't doubt anyone who rode out Ida there having some type of PTSD issues with storms as a result.
Posted on 8/11/25 at 6:00 am to LegendInMyMind
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Houma got absolutely raked for a while, and I wouldn't doubt anyone who rode out Ida there having some type of PTSD issues with storms as a result.
I rode it out there at work, but I was in a concrete/brick building that could take it. Seeing the damage the next day and not having cell service was crazy. Luckily, our fiber internet at the office was working about 90% of the time.
Also, seeing the number of cars on the road the next day meant a number of people did not leave. Those are the ones you have to watch as they are ones that expect FEMA and other relief organizations to setup right away and start handing out freebies.
Posted on 8/11/25 at 7:40 am to SidewalkTiger
8-10hrs is a long time for them not to report on it? No one was standing at the failure points and communication was 2005 levels.
People have just adjusted their memory and made up some story that the facts dont support. Not to mention the idea of levee failures like that were not at the forefront. Overtopping, maybe, but not failures.
People have just adjusted their memory and made up some story that the facts dont support. Not to mention the idea of levee failures like that were not at the forefront. Overtopping, maybe, but not failures.
This post was edited on 8/11/25 at 7:42 am
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