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re: Are Nicotine pouches the future or just a new "boner" fad?

Posted on 2/8/25 at 12:14 pm to
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
11515 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 12:14 pm to
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I dropped dipping 5 years ago and have been using Zyn since then. She's on my arse all the time to quit spouting how it's unhealthy and I'm going to get cancer. If I mention that there's no proof nicotine alone causes cancer, I get the "the Zyn crap hasn't been around long enough to see long term effects"

The propaganda campaign against nicotine runs deep. It’s like caffeine, but treated like heroin. Retarded world we live in. All driven by insurance premiums resulting from smoking, which was once a recommended practice.
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
11515 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 12:16 pm to
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Could be worse baw. My wife saw one tic toc saying that nicotine causes sperm to be impotent and now says that I need to quit if we want to have a baby. Said that being on nicotine while trying to have a baby is harmful to the child

Lolz. I have been using nicotine for over 20 years and have two huge fiscal liabilities that were accidentally conceived while my sperm were under the influence of nicotine.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
58284 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 12:17 pm to
Smoking is good for you
Posted by subMOA
Komatipoort
Member since Jan 2010
1942 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 12:20 pm to
I dipped a can, sometimes two, of Copenhagen a day since I was in high school- swtiched to the Zyn/Rouge/On, whatevers and I haven’t had a dip in 6 months.

I don’t see a downside- I don’t think nocotine is bad, just how we were getting it.

The pouches are so much cheaper- I would chain dip all day. Now, I get a pouch, don’t have to be gross, and maybe do 5-6 a day.
Posted by GCTigahs
Member since Oct 2014
2427 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 12:24 pm to
Tucker’s ALP pouches FTW!
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
30857 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 12:49 pm to
????. Will give it a try.
Posted by nolanola
Member since Nov 2010
7635 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 1:13 pm to
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Weed also gives you higher mind insight that helps you see behind the curtain. If you smoke it for that reason you start becoming immune to people’s bullshite.


Never smoked weed as a teen or in my 20s. Started THC gummies in my late 30s. Not saying it’s for everyone but this statement is 100% true.
Posted by hottub
Member since Dec 2012
3647 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 1:17 pm to
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Now they say Zyn has a competitor.


ALP is my new go to
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 1:23 pm to
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My wife saw one tic toc saying that nicotine causes sperm to be impotent


Back when about everyone smoked, they also had 5 or 6 kids.

Posted by Mr Clean
Power I-Formation
Member since Aug 2006
53036 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 1:28 pm to
25 mg ephedra/tablet.

Buy from the store instead of online.

Found cheaper prices online but the pills were fake.
This post was edited on 2/8/25 at 1:29 pm
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
68738 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 1:36 pm to
I went from a can of dip a day at $7/can, to a tin of On! Every 2 days at $3.50/can. That's over $1900/year in savings, plus the fact that it's a much healthier alternative.

I am ok with this brand of trashy.
Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
10649 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 1:38 pm to
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Nicotine is a wonder drug


Sounds like addict speak.

It may have some beneficial benefits. But the fact that you're jonesing like a fiend after about 2-3 hours without it speaks volumes.

Having said that...yes, Zyn is a much better alternative than actual chewing tobacco or smoking.

I quit dipping 10 years ago because I got tired of my life being the thing I did between dips.
This post was edited on 2/8/25 at 1:40 pm
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
7209 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 1:54 pm to
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Ardis explores the controversial topic of nicotine.


The inverse link between nicotine and COVID was something that was discovered by insurance companies. I work(ed) for one at the time. We expected to see smokers drop like flies during COVID, because of all the obvious respiratory conditions.

But that's not what happened. Smokers (dippers aren't usually known to insurance companies, btw) had a much lower mortality rate for COVID than anyone expected. We found that in the claims and mortality data, but it was never published. Our med director couldn't articulate why, so it was largely just ignored, and not released publicly.

But I can tell you that when I got COVID, I kept zynning. There's a direct link between COVID spike proteins and nicotine receptors. In essence, when you have nicotine in your system, there isn't enough "blank space" in your brain for covid to connect to. While yes, I got sick, I never had any form of brain fog or cognitive issues that most people complained about.

Nicotine isn't bad for you. The way you get it or consume it usually is.
Posted by Don Quixote
Member since May 2023
3988 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 2:46 pm to
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Nicotine isn't bad for you. The way you get it or consume it usually is.


precisely, nicotine gets the rap for all the shite that big tobacco puts in cigarettes that's the actual culprit for why cigarettes are terrible and addictive
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
11515 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 2:53 pm to
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Sounds like addict speak. It may have some beneficial benefits. But the fact that you're jonesing like a fiend after about 2-3 hours without it speaks volumes.

Speaks volumes about what? I am 100% addicted to caffeine and nicotine and I 100% DGAF. It makes absolutely no difference in my life and makes me happier and more focused. I will pop a lozenge in front of anyone at anytime. I am never without them.
Posted by holdmuh keystonelite
Member since Oct 2020
3521 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 3:04 pm to
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Go to your local Planet Nutrition and pick up a bottle of V-Core or Stimerex. It's legal


I don't see anything about V-Core having anything like that in it. Are you sure that is the name?
Posted by papasmurf1269
Hells Pass
Member since Apr 2005
21334 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 3:11 pm to
I used the patches and I went through the entire program and they worked for me. I have been quit since Thanksgiving of last year

Some days are worse than others as far as still wanting a cigarette but all in all I remained strong
This post was edited on 2/8/25 at 3:12 pm
Posted by Mr Clean
Power I-Formation
Member since Aug 2006
53036 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 3:13 pm to
Patches got me through it.

Started with one on each arm.

Dropped to one and ultimately forgot about smoking or nicotine.

Tried a Zyn a year ago and it put me on the couch dizzy. Tossed the rest.
This post was edited on 2/8/25 at 3:14 pm
Posted by Don Quixote
Member since May 2023
3988 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 3:14 pm to
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Go to your local Planet Nutrition and pick up a bottle of V-Core or Stimerex. It's legal.


both of those also have Yohimbe in them and while I have an extremely high tolerance for stimulants that's one that drives me up the wall and I avoid

YMMV
Posted by Mr Clean
Power I-Formation
Member since Aug 2006
53036 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 3:16 pm to
I wasn't aware they have yohimbe.

I take a small enough dose that I've never noticed.
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