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Apologies...

Posted on 6/6/20 at 2:53 pm
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
A man more eviler than Skeletor.
Member since Feb 2005
50655 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 2:53 pm
I see this running rampant in a lot of threads. More just an overall question.

Am I the only one that doesn’t have any problems with anyone apologizing?

Does it really matter either way? If someone asks you to apologize do you dig in or just do it?

Do you feel like apologies indicate strength or weakness? Willingness to consider another side or backtracking from a conviction?

What’s your personal stance on apologies?

ETA: sorry in advance.

(/joke)



Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
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Posted on 6/6/20 at 2:54 pm to
Posted by mametoo
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2008
3295 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 2:55 pm to
If I've done something wrong I have no problem apologizing. If I haven't I will not apologize just to smooth things over.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 6/6/20 at 2:55 pm to
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
19855 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 2:55 pm to
You need to apologize for your thread title.
Posted by Celery
Nuevo York
Member since Nov 2010
11748 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 2:55 pm to
I was taught that It takes a big man to admit when he’s wrong.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
106138 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 2:56 pm to
"Never apologize. It's a sign of weakness." John Wayne in She Wore A Yellow Ribbon.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
32130 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 3:00 pm to
quote:

Am I the only one that doesn’t have any problems with anyone apologizing?


People are free to do what they want.

However, I've never understood the need to apologize for my gender, religion or skin color just because others emotionally over compensate for injustices that are out of my/their control.
Posted by LSUcajun77
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2008
24549 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 3:01 pm to
If you did nothing wrong then you shouldn’t have to apologize. I thought that was pretty clear cut to the human race.
If you apologize for something a) you did something wrong. b) or you didn’t and you just want to shut someone up (works well in an argument you’re tired of) c) you didn’t but you’re a cuck in general.
This post was edited on 6/6/20 at 3:04 pm
Posted by EmperorGout
I hate all of you.
Member since Feb 2008
11612 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 3:05 pm to
It's not just about that though. On the surface it is, I guess.

Conservatives had a collective nervous breakdown over a black dude being president. That hasn't stopped really. They are also, more recently, coming to grips with the magnitude of their defeat in the culture war at large. Read any conservative site. There was despondency beneath the surface even when they controlled every branch of government.

It isn't about just an apology. They're terrified and the world is a zero sum game now
This post was edited on 6/6/20 at 3:08 pm
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
69794 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 3:11 pm to
quote:

Am I the only one that doesn’t have any problems with anyone apologizing?


If you’re referring to killing of George Floyd, I will not apologize for something I haven’t done, nor do I agree with, just because I share the same skin color with the guy who killed him. Apologizing implies fault. I am not at fault in any way.

If you’re referring to Drew Brees, people take issue because it was a forced apology where he gave into the mob mentality, and he did absolutely nothing wrong except share his own viewpoint.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 3:17 pm to
quote:

Conservatives had a collective nervous breakdown over a black dude being president.


Lol nope.

quote:

That hasn't stopped really.


Lolz

quote:

They are also, more recently, coming to grips with the magnitude of their defeat in the culture war at large.


No. I don’t think government needs to be legislating “culture wars”.
quote:

There was despondency beneath the surface even when they controlled every branch of government.


Paul Ryan isn’t a conservative. Nor is Justice Roberts.

quote:

They're terrified and the world is a zero sum game now


I’m not terrified. But I don’t think a zero-sum “game” is ideal. Differences of civil opinion is what actually allowed the United States to become the leader of the free world.
This post was edited on 6/6/20 at 3:19 pm
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6795 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 3:21 pm to
quote:

Am I the only one that doesn’t have any problems with anyone apologizing?
Apologizing does absolutely no good.

Remember Michael Richards (Kramer)?

He said the n-word in a fit of anger at a heckler. He was demonized, and has been absolutely the most remorseful person that has ever been called out by the PC mob.

Guess what that got him? Not a goddamned thing. He still lost all his contracts, gigs, and can't find any work. Find any comment section that mentions him today and he is regularly spit on despite the sincere apology.

Don't apologize.
This post was edited on 6/6/20 at 3:22 pm
Posted by arktiger28
Member since Aug 2005
5512 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 3:34 pm to
As a Christian I believe apologies (I prefer the word Repentance) exist as a means for me to address a sin I have committed against another person. It is how I admit wrong and give the person an opportunity to forgive me and therefore remove the offense from between us. Apologies for sins I have not committed or so I can feel good or to appease the masses is an absolute perversion of the existence of this thing called repentance that find sacred. I got too many concrete sins to apologize for and make right to worry about these nebulous undefinable sins we are being called to apologize for.
This post was edited on 6/6/20 at 3:42 pm
Posted by Redbone
between St. Amant and Port Vincent
Member since Sep 2012
20738 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 3:38 pm to
quote:

What’s your personal stance on apologies?
I apologize when I do or say something wrong.

Not when someone wants me to make them some how feel superior.
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
A man more eviler than Skeletor.
Member since Feb 2005
50655 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 3:39 pm to
Where’d you get that picture of me?
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
A man more eviler than Skeletor.
Member since Feb 2005
50655 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 3:49 pm to
NEVER.
Posted by soccerfüt
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Member since May 2013
76237 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 4:17 pm to
Marshall Law shall prevail

Posted by JOJO Hammer
Member since Nov 2010
12463 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 4:22 pm to
It starts with an apology. Then an apology is not enough and they will demand more.
Posted by littleavery1948
Member since Oct 2014
6481 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 4:25 pm to
quote:


If I've done something wrong I have no problem apologizing. If I haven't I will not apologize just to smooth things over.



This. As far as the flag is concerned, I wouldn't kneel, but if someone wants to, they can. To each their own, but if you're going to kneel, do it based on YOUR convictions and not someone else's (i.e. think for yourself). Furthermore, be respectful towards others, even if they don't agree with you. I have a bigger problem with stupidity then I do with protesting. I also have a problem with burning or stomping on the flag, but kneeling? Nah.
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