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re: Wait you guys know that there can and (probably) will be more indictments right? - karmapol1ce
I have no problem. I’m offering a bet if you choose to take it. ...
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re: Wait you guys know that there can and (probably) will be more indictments right? - karmapol1ce
Hey buddy. If you read further in the thread I’ve talked about the possibility of the obstruction charge not being levied and it being possible to prove. The burden of proof on obstruction is high and hard to prove because of “corrupt intent”. As I’ve said multiple times in this thread, theres no...
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re: Wait you guys know that there can and (probably) will be more indictments right? - karmapol1ce
except the numerous articles outlining the “case” for obstruction based on sources information and sources claiming that mueller is investigating obstruction. Other that that, no. but those same sources claimed that Manafort, Flynn, and Gates would be indicted. wait and see. And bet me if yo...
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re: Wait you guys know that there can and (probably) will be more indictments right? - karmapol1ce
I’ll rxtend my bet to you buddy. It’s fine to say that this far these indictments seem to be unconnected. I have no vested argument for wanting anything other than the truth. We ll see what happens ...
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re: Wait you guys know that there can and (probably) will be more indictments right? - karmapol1ce
Bbonds, I’m not the prosecutor. I don’t know what he is guilty of. I don’t know that he is guilty at all. You’re wanting to say the FBI thing. You keep hammering as if this exonerates him if any and all obstruction charges. I m sure special counsel and his team know which statutes the president’s...
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re: Wait you guys know that there can and (probably) will be more indictments right? - karmapol1ce
Bbonds, that case doesn’t exist. nowhere did I say that the prosecutor won’t assign a wrongdoing to a specific part of the code. You in your haste are trying to get me to outline which obstruction law the president has broken. I have said that all things are speculative since I’m not inside the inve...
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re: Wait you guys know that there can and (probably) will be more indictments right? - karmapol1ce
[quote]So you don't have a [b]statue[/b] to cite. [/quote] Look you legal genius I let it slide once but twice is too much when I’m being lectured by you. it’s [b]STATUTE[/b] The law isn’t just about statutes, it’s about precedents and court opinions and rulings and jurisdictions. the law is ...
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re: Wait you guys know that there can and (probably) will be more indictments right? - karmapol1ce
[quote]NOTE: All of these indictments COULD still be found to be unrelated to russian collusion/corruption. [/quote] I have no idea what you guys are arguing?...
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re: Wait you guys know that there can and (probably) will be more indictments right? - karmapol1ce
It’s a fairly nuanced conversation about indicting sitting presidents.also you can reference the Harvard and Duke lawyers I quoted earlier. I’m not a lawyer but this has to do with constitutional a doj precedents. Like I said before IF mueller recommended charges it d be up to Rosenstein to purs...
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re: Wait you guys know that there can and (probably) will be more indictments right? - karmapol1ce
counselor, i was responding to sloflo's "logical avenues for why the collusion and investigation could be kept open" [quote]the problem is what's left after the social media assault is taken off the table there aren't many logical avenues for "collusion"[/quote] [quote]collusion, no. corru...
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re: Wait you guys know that there can and (probably) will be more indictments right? - karmapol1ce
sigh. No he can shut it down as president but if he has a corrupt motive it’s obstruction. No president is above the law. This has been established multiple times in our country’s history. the crazy thing is I haven’t even said I think he ll get charged with obstruction. in fact I’ve said I don’...
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re: Wait you guys know that there can and (probably) will be more indictments right? - karmapol1ce
you guys are doing a really poor job here. I just said IF. I honestly don’t know what anyone is arguing about. I’ve just said that mueller is going to have more indictments. And we ll see if he brings one for obstruction. :dunno:...
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re: Wait you guys know that there can and (probably) will be more indictments right? - karmapol1ce
[quote]Then how did Ford get away with pardoning Nixon?[/quote] pardoning someone for a crime is different than impeding an investigation. ...
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re: Wait you guys know that there can and (probably) will be more indictments right? - karmapol1ce
[quote]Simply ordering an investigation be shut down is not obstruction. You have to prove illegal acts were committed to obstruct the investigation, not merely exercising the constitutional power of the Presidency.[/quote] i feel like i've explicitly said that time and time again. WITH CORRU...
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re: Wait you guys know that there can and (probably) will be more indictments right? - karmapol1ce
[quote]Thanks for yet again making my point for me, that not a single American has been indicted for willingly working with Russians to throw the election. Not a Single One[/quote] THIS indictment. :lol: what are you trying to prove homey?...
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re: Wait you guys know that there can and (probably) will be more indictments right? - karmapol1ce
[quote]You are still struggling with the basics. An element of Obstruction requires there to be a "proceeding". An FBI Investigation is specifically enumerated as not being a "proceeding". That element cannot be met by firing Comey. Remember way back when we talked about elements of crimes and how t...
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re: Wait you guys know that there can and (probably) will be more indictments right? - karmapol1ce
[quote]There will be, there are 13,000 federal indictments out there.[/quote] :lol: living up to the poster's name....
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re: Wait you guys know that there can and (probably) will be more indictments right? - karmapol1ce
[quote]Are you confident that you, your family, and friends/associates could financially and criminally survive a Mueller investigation?[/quote] financially probably not. but i don't think i or they break the law often so :dunno:...
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re: Wait you guys know that there can and (probably) will be more indictments right? - karmapol1ce
[quote]I will say it a third time. FBI Investigations are not proceedings under the Obstruction statute. That is straight from the DOJ Prosecutor manual. No matter how many times you say it...firing Comey cannot be obstruction.[/quote] dude. you can say it all you want. but you're not allowed to ...
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re: Wait you guys know that there can and (probably) will be more indictments right? - karmapol1ce
[quote]The Russian thing would be hidden from him even if it was true. [/quote] i believe this to be entirely possible. i mean, if we end up uncovering that flynn and manafort were dirty as frick and had promised the moon and the stars to putin, but trump didn't know anything about it, wouldn...
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