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AP classes harder than college? (a conversation with two cousins)

Posted on 4/4/16 at 9:32 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 4/4/16 at 9:32 pm
So my grandmother (who was very old and very sick and we knew for a while that it was any day now) passed away last week, and at the services I got talking to two of my cousins who are both sophomores in college. (One goes to mich, one UC-San diego). Somehow we got talking about high school and they both insist that their college experience so far, academic wise, has been significantly easier than the 4/5 AP classload they were taking as juniors and seniors in HS. They claim that almost everyone they know 9who took same classload in HS) thinks the same thing.

I've been out of the loop for a while now, but I took AP classes in HS too and never thought college was easier. And while they agreed that exams are harder, they said that the lack of five hours of busy hw a night is the biggest reason why it's easier.

So is that a pretty common feeling these days- that taking a full AP classload as a junior/senior is actually harder than a college classload? Seems like that's not how it is supposed to work.
This post was edited on 4/4/16 at 9:34 pm
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
42605 posts
Posted on 4/4/16 at 9:35 pm to
I was in gifted in high school. Calc 1, chemistry, and freshman English at LSU were all way easier than in high school. My first English class at LSU is what made me realize that college is joke and any moron can get in.
Posted by Huey Lewis
BR
Member since Oct 2013
5170 posts
Posted on 4/4/16 at 9:35 pm to
Most undergrad classes are easier than rigorous high school classes, because most undergrad classes are a joke.
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
18007 posts
Posted on 4/4/16 at 9:36 pm to
I went in with 30 college credits and I thought that first year or two was a breeze. Got a little tougher when I got into my major. I did take it easy with 12 credits the first semester or two but I couldn't believe how much free time I had.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29454 posts
Posted on 4/4/16 at 9:36 pm to
My college classes were a cakewalk compared to my HS AP classes. Apparently my HS teachers thought I'd be jumping straight from HS to grad school.
Posted by ULSU
Tasmania
Member since Jan 2014
3931 posts
Posted on 4/4/16 at 9:37 pm to
My AP classes were definitely harder and required more work than my college equivalents
Posted by NewIberiaHaircut
Lafayette
Member since May 2013
12543 posts
Posted on 4/4/16 at 9:41 pm to
Both chemistry and physics (non-engineering) at LSU were basically repeats of my HS courses. I couldn't believe how many pre-med students were knocked out by the first and second physics classes.
This post was edited on 4/4/16 at 10:03 pm
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36821 posts
Posted on 4/4/16 at 9:42 pm to
college classes were harder IMO. The hours of homework in high school seems mythical. Maybe I just had good teachers but I took a frick ton of AP classes and never broke a sweat. You at least have to try in college, which was not really true for AP classes where as long as you have a brain and pay attention in class, you can pass the exam
This post was edited on 4/4/16 at 9:43 pm
Posted by hillcountrywanderer
Buda, TX
Member since Jul 2014
529 posts
Posted on 4/4/16 at 9:43 pm to
Took AP during my junior and senior years with 4 classes each. Way harder than my freshman/sophmore years. Got harder as I took more finance and accounting classes as I got older.
Posted by tigerstripedjacket
This side of the wall
Member since Sep 2011
3147 posts
Posted on 4/4/16 at 9:45 pm to
quote:

went in with 30 college credits and I thought that first year or two was a breeze. Got a little tougher when I got into my major. I did take it easy with 12 credits the first semester or two but I couldn't believe how much free time I had.


Same here. And even though I still took a heavy course load I still always had free time.
Posted by Breesus
Unplug
Member since Jan 2010
69549 posts
Posted on 4/4/16 at 9:50 pm to
Jesuit was way harder than LSU in some aspects. Freshmen and Sophomore years of college were easy as hell. They were basically rehashing the shite I learned in high school. But those years of college are necessary for people who went to dipshit high schools.
This post was edited on 4/4/16 at 10:00 pm
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
21075 posts
Posted on 4/4/16 at 9:58 pm to
names of colleges should be required in this thread. I'm sure English and math courses were easy at Southeastern.
Posted by HarryBalzack
Member since Oct 2012
16366 posts
Posted on 4/4/16 at 9:59 pm to
I teach college and grade the AP Exams... The AP courses are preparing you for whatever is on that test, meaning that they are covering a mile-wide and an inch deep, whereas in college, we usually cover an. inch wide and a mile deep, meaning that there are probably a lot more moving parts in the AP class.

"Hard" and value of what's learned aren't necessarily the same, however. I know that some of my math & engineering colleagues wish we'd quit letting students use AP calc credits for reqs.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8719 posts
Posted on 4/4/16 at 10:02 pm to
I took a lot of AP classes and had a lot of AP credits heading into undergrad (enough to graduate pretty early), and ND, even in the first year or two, was way, way more difficult than anything I did in high school. Not even in the same universe.

Everything was on a bell curve, and when everyone you're in class with already has similar AP credits and only 35% of the class is getting an A, the professors can make even intro courses far more difficult than is probably needed.
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
20645 posts
Posted on 4/4/16 at 10:03 pm to
I took 3 AP classes and several honors (small private school). I got a 5, a 4, and a 3. 5 and 4 were in history (my jam) and the 3 was in AP biology which is still one of the hardest classes I've ever taken ( one of the best teachers ever too, I can still talk somewhat intelligibly about a lot of that stuff almost 10 years). I fricking got a 3 because I mislabeled hydroponic and hypoponic cell membrane. Anyway, I had to take biology in college again. I made a 99 in the class (and a d in the lab because I overslept the final). So yeah, I think in general, the AP is harder than freshmen biology in college
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36821 posts
Posted on 4/4/16 at 10:09 pm to
You did not get a 3 on AP biology because you mislabeled those things. that is a ridiculous assertion
Posted by Pectus
Internet
Member since Apr 2010
67302 posts
Posted on 4/4/16 at 10:15 pm to
Wait until Junior year.
Posted by iamAG
Member since Aug 2015
3517 posts
Posted on 4/4/16 at 10:17 pm to
I graduated high school with 24 hours. They were significant easier. We took the same test as the college kids, however we had 5 hours a week with the teacher compared to 3 hours in college a week.
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
67249 posts
Posted on 4/4/16 at 10:20 pm to
College was way easier for me than high school. I was in AP classes at a very competitive suburban high school in Katy.

I was in business, so not like I was engineering or anything. But college was a breeze for me compared to high school.

It was a combination of only having class 3 hours a day instead of 7 and less homework.
This post was edited on 4/4/16 at 10:22 pm
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
51421 posts
Posted on 4/4/16 at 10:22 pm to
Took honors Calculus at LSU and we covered everything we covered in my HS Calculus class in about 3-4 weeks. I was like fuuuuuuuck.
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