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re: Anyone Feel Like College Students Are Coddled These Days?

Posted on 10/24/21 at 9:03 pm to
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 10/24/21 at 9:03 pm to
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Does anyone else share these feelings? By the time students reach college, it's time to grow up. And this isn't the case with all students, of course, just a lot more than I thought.


Kids these days are messed up in the head. Last time I worked the ER I had a college student attempt suicide because her post on Instagram didn’t get enough likes. I blame the parents. These kids parents spent too much time getting drunk and watching reality tv shows and expected the xbox and xanax to raise their kids.
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 10/24/21 at 9:08 pm to
You joking right? Every damn test is multiple choice no one gets kicked out anymore you have to be a idiot to not make grades. Hell the male GPA univ avg in my town is 3.2 they have to keep them in school $$$$$$
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
22141 posts
Posted on 10/24/21 at 9:28 pm to
All of my degrees have been obtained as an adult. I am working on a master's degree right now. I literally just finished my last final paper to end this term. The amount of times I have spoken to an academic advisor for this degree is two. Once when I started and once when I needed a rubber stamp to register for a particular class. I mapped out my entire course schedule before I even enrolled.
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
29208 posts
Posted on 10/24/21 at 9:59 pm to
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undergrad, I occasionally saw my advisor, but I certainly wasn't completely blind on what it took to graduate and I wasn't dependent on my advisor to tell me exactly what to do


I rolled into my semester advisor meetings with my schedule already filled in and backup options to those 1st priority picks in case a class was filled up.

Always.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10441 posts
Posted on 10/24/21 at 10:08 pm to
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Those that can’t do, teach. I have found this to be especially true in the STEM field, and then there is a whole new level of woke, meaningless classes that are taught to brain dead kids. No wonder so many males are opting out of college.


I have always laughed at the pathetic and horrible logic that people like you try to spin this garbage.

Saying that people that teach can’t do the stuff is not only false but entirely the opposite of most reality in Stem. Most can do but approach different goals and are actually goos at research and/or teaching.

Instead, people who have no ability to communicate the knowledge of their field to novices spit that bullshite line.

It is pretty sad since they somehow think it is easy to teach well.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10441 posts
Posted on 10/24/21 at 10:19 pm to
It is a bit of a catch-22 for all involved as you mentioned. Provide to little advising and your blamed. Do too much and you are the reactions on here by some complaining MG that it wasted their time.

I work in A pretty good STEM program at a private university. Our students are definitely coddled and it is ridiculous to the extend it has gotten. I am a major academic adviser as part of my service to my department. I just had students bitching to me about dropping a core class because the class average so far was like a 79.

Grade inflation and the coddling at the high school level has honestly destroyed their self-reliance and understanding of learning. They simply expect to succeed.

Also being in an ABET accredited engineering program, they struggle to understand why we can’t just randomly let the substitue whatever the hell they want for their degree requirements. It blows my mind in that regard that they think these degrees are a la carte.

Hell we can’t even get cable a la carte, but they expect a bachelors like that.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37423 posts
Posted on 10/24/21 at 10:23 pm to
I honestly can only remember meeting with an advisor during spring testing, when I got a D in a class after having an A at midterms, and making sure I signed all the proper paper work to graduate.

Maybe I just lucked into signing up for all the right classes, maybe I payed attention to what all around me were doing so I just followed them to the right classes, but I don’t remember ever relying on an advisor for degree success.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37423 posts
Posted on 10/24/21 at 10:24 pm to
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Took 52 semester hours total my last year.


fricking why? That sounds miserable.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37423 posts
Posted on 10/24/21 at 10:29 pm to
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I’m a college student and a white liberal.


Time to grow the frick up. Your dad should be retired by now, not working so that’s he can pay for college for you.

Get a job and take out loans, or better yet, community college or trade school
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22290 posts
Posted on 10/24/21 at 10:29 pm to
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I don't ever remember talking to an academic advisor in college.

My only interaction was emailing them graduation checkout requirements. It was pretty easy following a flowchart of degree requirements.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37423 posts
Posted on 10/24/21 at 10:31 pm to
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Pajamas are comfy and nobody cares. Are you expecting them to wear a blouse and shirt?


It’s a mindset. When you take the time in the morning to shower and get ready, your mind and body basically wake up and realize it’s time to get shite done. I know that when I changed my mindset from “roll out of bed and get to class” to “wake up 30 min earlier, shave, shower, and put on halfway decent clothes my grades significantly improved.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28813 posts
Posted on 10/24/21 at 10:36 pm to
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Took 52 semester hours total my last year.


fricking why? That sounds miserable.


I took about 50 my last year. I did a 12, 9, 9, and 21 for my last spring, summer1, summer2, and fall.

I was married and making decent money for a college kid (paying for school as I went) doing 6-12 a semester my first 4 years but then my wife got pregnant so I had to haul arse after I found out i was going to be a dad in March to finish in December.
This post was edited on 10/24/21 at 10:38 pm
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
29462 posts
Posted on 10/24/21 at 11:02 pm to
Acknowledging, demanding, and creating "Safe Spaces" were the beginning of the end of self-respect and dignity among college kids.

Posted by Doctor Strangelove
Member since Feb 2018
2960 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 1:20 am to
Sorry to strike a nerve Mr Assistant lab instructor. There are a few good professors but many are just washed up academics who hide behind tenure and have massive ego’s with zero ability to teach. Are you honestly saying you have not seen this?
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
10378 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 1:25 am to
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Baby boomers grew up with tough childhoods
lol
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
10378 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 1:28 am to
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having started a job in higher education fairly recently
What job? What was your degree in?
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34648 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 1:31 am to
It’s always the professors fault when someone fails a class these days
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 2:15 am to
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Baby boomers grew up with tough childhoods

lol


We had a few concerns, that kids today don’t worry about, things like will the draft end before I finish high school, or what will I do if I get drafted, those were at the top of my list. I had already been to the funeral of a buddy’s older brother that was killed in the war.
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
6449 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 2:44 am to
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We had a few concerns, that kids today don’t worry about, things like will the draft end before I finish high school, or what will I do if I get drafted, those were at the top of my list. I had already been to the funeral of a buddy’s older brother that was killed in the war.


Boomers and X'ers also had that little issue of, oh, possible nuclear annihilation at any moment, but most of us lived with it instead of crying on TV about it like a pussy.

I'm old enough to see the origins of today's coddled, woke kids and the ties back to their anti-nuke antecedents constantly crying "how can I go on when the world could end at any minute?"
Posted by Armymann50
Playing with my
Member since Sep 2011
17037 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 4:52 am to
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"call in" for drill
is that like phone sex?
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