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pelicansfan123
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Anyone Feel Like College Students Are Coddled These Days?
And I don't mean with safe spaces on campus, with professors talking about pronouns, or BS like that, annoying as that stuff is.

But, having started a job in higher education fairly recently, it's amazing to me how babied college students are nowadays. And this includes students who work long hours to pay for their degree, yet still don't want to take responsibility for their education. Kids who have the responsibility for paying for their full college tuition, but don't take the time to understand their degree requirements or what they need to do to be successful.

Another thing that shocked me was how, where I work at least, is if something goes wrong and the student doesn't graduate on time, it's primarily the advisor's fault as opposed to the student's fault. Of course, an advisor has a responsibility to give students correct information, but I know was in undergrad, I was constantly checking my degree progress to make sure I was getting my education done in a timely manner, along with working hard to make sure my classes went well.

In undergrad, I occasionally saw my advisor, but I certainly wasn't completely blind on what it took to graduate and I wasn't dependent on my advisor to tell me exactly what to do. And I didn't need an advisor to tell me to seek academic help if I needed it.

Does anyone else share these feelings? By the time students reach college, it's time to grow up. And this isn't the case with all students, of course, just a lot more than I thought.
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Everybody gets a trophy generation


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re: Anyone Feel Like College Students Are Coddled These Days?
Being successful in life is a right


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re: Anyone Feel Like College Students Are Coddled These Days?
I don't ever remember talking to an academic advisor in college.


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re: Anyone Feel Like College Students Are Coddled These Days?
My nephew had to take a quiz online the other day. There was a technical problem and he couldn't log on. It never occurred to him to email his professor until it was suggested to him. Even then he was incredulous and took a while to wrap his mind around the idea.


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re: Anyone Feel Like College Students Are Coddled These Days?
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In undergrad, I occasionally saw my advisor, but I certainly wasn't completely blind on what it took to graduate and I wasn't dependent on my advisor to tell me exactly what to do. 


I got pretty scientific about finishing up in my last couple years. Once I saw a probable path to graduation I latched on like a pit bull. Took 52 semester hours total my last year.


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Being successful in life is a right

This mentality.


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Jim Rockford
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re: Anyone Feel Like College Students Are Coddled These Days?
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I don't ever remember talking to an academic advisor in college.


As an incoming freshman my advisor steered me into the unpopular classes that needed filling (ex: 18th century English Lit instead of modern fiction.). After that I made my own schedule
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pelicansfan123
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re: Anyone Feel Like College Students Are Coddled These Days?
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I got pretty scientific about finishing up in my last couple years. Once I saw a probable path to graduation I latched on like a pit bull. Took 52 semester hours total my last year.


Good for you. Academic advisors can be helpful in helping in this respect. Advisors shouldn't (at least in my opinion) be there to have to tell kids to go to tutoring or that they haven't taken a class they need to graduate. Students should be able to figure this out by themselves. But, it certainly sounds like you were very on top of things!
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Ricardo
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re: Anyone Feel Like College Students Are Coddled These Days?
Critical thinking skills are formed through a lifetime of being challenged to reflect and analyze problems (big and small.) Day to day life has become very simplified to the point that very little independent effort or thought is required to function.

It may seem silly, but I think it's good to tackle a variety of projects that require working with ones hands. Just something as simple as building a simple table or desk with your kid. It makes him/her understand how to think and plan a project. (Gathering necessary supplies, tools, work area, etc.)

We take a lot of things for granted as adults, but until you show a kid there's a process for doing things and how to be efficient at it, they will not get it. And will have to figure things out for themselves one day, when the stakes are potentially much higher/costly.


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thejudge
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re: Anyone Feel Like College Students Are Coddled These Days?
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Anyone Feel Like College Students Are Coddled These Days?


Everyone should read "Coddling of the American Mind"

LINK

Excellent book. We're are cranking out a nation of snowflakes


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Millennial, dated a college professor for awhile. From what I observed, her students were pretty much helpless. Also very quick to appeal grades and report professors for perceived transgressions.

Maybe it’s because I’m just getting older, but they didn’t seem like college students of yore…they were like 5th or 6th year high school kids. No independence or desire to be independent. Like I said, helpless.


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re: Anyone Feel Like College Students Are Coddled These Days?
it took me five years to graduate at lsu and i never blamed anyone but myself!





(i thanked myself)


pelicansfan123
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re: Anyone Feel Like College Students Are Coddled These Days?
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Also very quick to appeal grades and report professors for perceived transgressions.


I've gotten a very similar vibe so far. In the administration's eyes, if a student doesn't graduate on time and/or something goes wrong with their academic progress, it's not the student's fault, it's the advisor's fault.

In my eyes, coming into the position, I expected to be having adult conversations with the students and have the expectation that it's ultimately up to the student to take responsibility for his/her education, but it's becoming clear that there's going to a lot more babysitting than I initially thought.


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re: Anyone Feel Like College Students Are Coddled These Days?
To be fair, they’re paying a lot more, so some enhanced customer service isn’t totally unreasonable.


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re: Anyone Feel Like College Students Are Coddled These Days?
My ex husband was jn the national guard 20 years ago. My sister in law is in the guard now. It is vastly different. Soldiers can essentially "call in" for drill if they can't attend. That never existed back in the day.


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re: Anyone Feel Like College Students Are Coddled These Days?
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In undergrad, I occasionally saw my advisor, but I certainly wasn't completely blind on what it took to graduate and I wasn't dependent on my advisor to tell me exactly what to do. And I didn't need an advisor to tell me to seek academic help if I needed it.

Excellent job on that English degree.


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AmericanPsycho99
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re: Anyone Feel Like College Students Are Coddled These Days?
Yeah.

I think your expectations become much, much higher when you're paying much more for the same education.

Right now, I'm getting the same service my parents got yet they went to college for a quarter of the price I'm paying. It's no surprise that my demands are going to be much more than theirs - I'm paying more so I'd expect a better quality education. And I use education/service interchangeably because when you're paying up to $50,000 a year for an education, it becomes a service.

Nevertheless, I'm not getting a better standard of service at all.
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pelicansfan123
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re: Anyone Feel Like College Students Are Coddled These Days?
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Yeah.

I think your expectations become much, much higher when you're paying much more for the same education.

Right now, I'm getting the same service my parents got yet they went to college for a quarter of the price I'm paying. It's no surprise that my demands are going to be much more than theirs - I'm paying more so I'd expect a better quality education. And I use education/service interchangeably because when you're paying up to $50,000 a year for an education, it becomes a service.

Nevertheless, I'm not getting a better standard of service at all.


That's fair enough. I certainly think that advisors should be providing good customer service and the price of college is ridiculous nowadays, I just think it can go overboard when, for instance, an advisor is having to call a student to tell them to meet with a professor and get extra help. The student should be doing that on their own.


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re: Anyone Feel Like College Students Are Coddled These Days?
Grade inflation is a very real thing.
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