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re: Anyone familiar with case of Nathaniel woods? Set to be executed in murder where he didn’t
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:08 am to troyt37
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:08 am to troyt37
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Would the shooter have been there if the convicted wasn’t slinging drugs out of this house?
That isn't a reason to put a guy to death.
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Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:10 am to Damone
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Going to wager a guess that this thread is filled with self-professed small government, freedom-loving conservatives supporting the state's execution of a person.
There really is extreme cognitive dissonance in the people who think government isn't efficient or competent enough to run businesses or the healthcare industry, but somehow is perfectly adept at administering the proceedings that ultimately involve life and death.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:11 am to The Spleen
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Nobody in this thread was on the jury, and it's at 12 pages of opinions, so why is mine any less significant?
Because you aren’t bringing any actual reason for your opinion. The man was convicted and executed according to the process that the State of Alabama uses to prosecute, convict, sentence, and execute criminal in their state. The entire process has been reviewed, all the way up to the Supreme Court, apparently, and they all concur.
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And there are a lot that agree with me.
And most of those who agree with you think that nobody deserves the death penalty, regardless of what they do. That has no bearing on the merits of this case.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:22 am to SCLibertarian
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There really is extreme cognitive dissonance in the people who think government isn't efficient or competent enough to run businesses or the healthcare industry, but somehow is perfectly adept at administering the proceedings that ultimately involve life and death.
Businesses or healthcare has obvious better options for their ownership and operation. What better option is there to arrest, try, convict, and execute those who prey on their fellow citizens? Cognitive dissonance indeed.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:23 am to troyt37
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Because you aren’t bringing any actual reason for your opinion.
Yes yes. Saying he deserved to die because he was in a crack house, as a few in this thread have said, is certainly a reasoned opinion. GTFO with your nonsense.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:27 am to The Spleen
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Yes yes. Saying he deserved to die because he was in a crack house, as a few in this thread have said, is certainly a reasoned opinion. GTFO with your nonsense.
Well, that’s a big pile of BS and you know it. Crack house or governor’s mansion, the man played an integral part in the murder of three people. It’s your side that is spewing nonsense.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:28 am to troyt37
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What better option is there to arrest, try, convict, and execute those who prey on their fellow citizens?
Governments are inept and make mistakes every day. The death penalty is irreversible once punishment has been meted. So if one believes that governments are so incompetent and inefficient, one would think he or she would also oppose the death penalty.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:30 am to troyt37
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the man played an integral part in the murder of three people.
He forced that other guy to shoot? Damn that's crazy.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:38 am to JohnnyKilroy
quote:The prosecution argued he and the other guy planned to lure the cops to the safe house to kill them.
He forced that other guy to shoot? Damn that's crazy.
Honest question, how many of us know legit details to make a legit determination on whether that is true or not?
I do not, I can't say with any certainty whatsoever as I haven't really dug into this one very much.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:40 am to shel311
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The prosecution argued he and the other guy planned to lure the cops to the safe house to kill them.
Tbh this sounds extremely far fetched even for crack heads/dealers.
I would need to see some extremely compelling evidence that this was a preplanned ambush.
Occam’s razor and all
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:43 am to JohnnyKilroy
quote:Right, but IMO I find it hard for one to take a hard stance on either side unless they do really researched and do know specific details on this thing that you and I don't seem to know.
Tbh this sounds extremely far fetched even for crack heads/dealers.
I would need to see some extremely compelling evidence that this was a preplanned ambush.
I guess my main point is, and it shouldn't be so shocking, I'm guessing 90+% of posters in this thread have very strong opinions without knowing much or many details on what actually happened.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:44 am to shel311
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Honest question, how many of us know legit details to make a legit determination on whether that is true or not?
I do not, I can't say with any certainty whatsoever as I haven't really dug into this one very much.
They offered the guy a 20-25 year plea before trial. If the prosecutors actually believed he played an active role in the murder of 3 cops, in Alabama, that plea would have never been offered.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:44 am to SCLibertarian
The fact that people have been exonerated after being put on death row should be enough to show that death penalty is flawed. Unlike other mistakes this one is not reversible.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:46 am to shel311
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The prosecution argued he and the other guy planned to lure the cops to the safe house to kill them.
That's odd because everything I've read said the cops were there serving a warrant.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:48 am to SCLibertarian
quote:Not really specific evidence, but that does seem like a fair point.
They offered the guy a 20-25 year plea before trial. If the prosecutors actually believed he played an active role in the murder of 3 cops, in Alabama, that plea would have never been offered.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:49 am to SCLibertarian
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There really is extreme cognitive dissonance in the people who think government isn't efficient or competent enough to run businesses or the healthcare industry, but somehow is perfectly adept at administering the proceedings that ultimately involve life and death.
Agreed. And this is why I'm anti-death penalty even though I do not mourn the large majority of people it kills, nor do I find most of those deaths unjustified.
I just think our entire capital punishment apparatus is flawed, from the reliance on inefficient and often incompetent governments to the delayed justice which results in executing people who may be entirely different human beings by the time they're put to death.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:52 am to Pettifogger
Posted on 3/6/20 at 11:04 am to rooster108bm
All the other retinue of the case aside, how the hell did the guy fire so many rounds from a rifle that only holds 10? Did he have the aftermarket 30 round magazine or was he using stripper clips?
Posted on 3/6/20 at 11:11 am to SCLibertarian
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There really is extreme cognitive dissonance in the people who think government isn't efficient or competent enough to run businesses or the healthcare industry, but somehow is perfectly adept at administering the proceedings that ultimately involve life and death.
nope
solution for one guy at a time vs. solution for a couple hundred million all at once
Posted on 3/6/20 at 11:15 am to HarryBalzack
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Did he have the aftermarket 30 round magazine or was he using stripper clips?
I would guess stripper clips.
The sk's I bought back when they were only $79 each came with strippers as did most cheap Russian ammo.
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