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re: American Bar Association drops LSAT requirement for Law School admissions

Posted on 11/19/22 at 11:27 am to
Posted by rmc
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Posted on 11/19/22 at 11:27 am to
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Fair but the policy behind this decision is directed at “equity” so it’s not a good one


No doubt. I went to SULC. If anyone wants to see “equity” in practice go look at our bar passage rates. They simply let people in that shouldn’t be in. The desire for equity is not a free market idea and should be rejected. Equal opportunity should be what we strive for.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/19/22 at 11:29 am to
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Equal opportunity should be what we strive for.


right. But the left no longer believes in equality, its all about equity which is equal outcomes.

After arguing for decades that equal outcomes were not the goal.

Posted by TigerIron
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Posted on 11/19/22 at 11:37 am to

This post was edited on 2/9/23 at 3:34 pm
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 11/19/22 at 11:39 am to
Do this mean I 2 can Getz into the school where dem bitches teach how to be a bearstir? Awesome.
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 11/19/22 at 11:40 am to
So taking a professional level exam is racist now?

Clown fricking world
Posted by NCIS_76
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Posted on 11/19/22 at 11:43 am to
College football player acceptance route.
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
19129 posts
Posted on 11/19/22 at 11:43 am to
With the caliber of judges and juries, lawyers don’t have to be intelligent either.
Posted by jb4
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Posted on 11/19/22 at 11:51 am to
Caribbean law schools are the best in the world
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
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Posted on 11/19/22 at 11:56 am to
Is there a lawyer shortage?

The amount of harm a bunch (more) shitty lawyers can do is without measure.
Posted by lsuconnman
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Posted on 11/19/22 at 11:57 am to
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Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 11/19/22 at 12:02 pm to
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If they dropped the LSAT because it reduces diversity in the profession, what do you think will happen to the bar exam, which already has big racial gaps in pass rates, that will get even wider once you stop using the LSAT and accelerate admissions based on race?


No clue.

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This is at best a half-truth because the ABA monitored LSATs and compared them to bar pass rates and got on schools that admitted too many low-LSAT students and had low bar pass rates. Some schools even lost accreditation over this. (Also, guess what-- low LSAT scores do correlate with low bar pass rates.)


Massive red herring. As far as I'm aware, the ABA gives zero fricks about your incoming LSAT scores as long as your Bar passage rate stays up. So while LSAT scores and Bar passage rates might correlate, that's not particularly relevant, for a very specific reason: even if a law school drops the LSAT requirement, the ABA is still going to threaten their accreditation if their Bar passage rates are too low.

It's not like the ABA is going to say "well, your Bar passage rate is in the shitter, but you don't require the LSAT anymore, so I guess you're ok..."

A decade ago, if a law school had low Bar passage rates, their accreditation would be threatened. Next year, if a law school has a low Bar passage rate, their accreditation will be threatened. Now, because the LSAT is correlated with Bar passage rates, that would serve as an incentive for law schools to continue requiring, or at least favoring, them. But I've yet to see any explanation for how this actually moves the needle, beyond an amorphous "it gives admission committees cover", but that cuts both ways.
Posted by JKLazurus
Member since Jun 2016
261 posts
Posted on 11/19/22 at 12:19 pm to
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Massive red herring. As far as I'm aware, the ABA gives zero fricks about your incoming LSAT scores as long as your Bar passage rate stays up.


It seems the ABA is taking the hit for USNews rankings. One determines your desirability and the other determines your viability.
Posted by TankBoys32
Member since Mar 2019
3988 posts
Posted on 11/19/22 at 12:20 pm to
This will lead to a shitload more people who have no business being in law school fail out and owe a shitload in student loans that they will want us to pay for. Great!
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
25588 posts
Posted on 11/19/22 at 12:22 pm to
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Starting in 2025, the ABA will no longer mandate that law schools require a “valid and reliable admission test” as a part of its application process, after feedback from a public comment period suggested that dropping the testing requirement would increase the number of unqualified and/or stupid graduates


FIFY
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
11176 posts
Posted on 11/19/22 at 12:24 pm to
Are they greasing the pole for Kim Kardassian to become a Lawyer?
Posted by TigeRoots
Member since Oct 2008
8553 posts
Posted on 11/19/22 at 12:39 pm to
Of course. Heard a stat that only 25% of High School GRADUATES can read. Just getting weaker and weaker as a woke society. Sheesh
Posted by LoneStarRanger
Texas/Europe
Member since Aug 2018
2404 posts
Posted on 11/19/22 at 1:02 pm to
We are entering a Bizzaro World where you can't trust your doctors or lawyers to be at least minimum levels of competent.

MD programs are dropping the MCAT, the BAR dropping LSAT. MD schools actively enrolling minorities using entirely different criteria. Law Schools doing the same.

This is going to be a weird, freaky country. I feel sorry for my child and future children; and theirs as well
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 11/19/22 at 1:03 pm to
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If they dropped the LSAT because it reduces diversity in the profession, what do you think will happen to the bar exam, which already has big racial gaps in pass rates, that will get even wider once you stop using the LSAT and accelerate admissions based on race?


I bet in a few years they start making the bar exam include your demographics rather than being blinded like it is now. So they can give preference in grading to minorities.

Watch.
Posted by soccerfüt
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Member since May 2013
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Posted on 11/19/22 at 1:18 pm to
I wonder what the position of the Wakanda Bar Association is on standardized admission testing?
Posted by 19557LSU
Member since Jan 2018
370 posts
Posted on 11/19/22 at 1:18 pm to
If the LSAT score a non factor in admissions, how does this ruling make one bit of difference?
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