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Posted on 1/25/24 at 10:08 am to waiting4saturday
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are you surprised the government fricked something as easy as this up?
Exactly why it is so fascinating that people who know without a doubt the government can do nothing but frick up are all in on the government ending someone's life. Of course no one is surprised that the government can frick it up, they simply do not care as long as the government is satisfying their twisted sense of revenge. Never mind that in the last 50 years 196 people who were sentenced to death were eventually released from prison because they were not guilty of the crime they were convicted of. Not had there sentences commuted to life but released from prison. 2.35 of every 100 people convicted and sentenced to death since 1973 have been completely exonerated of ANY wrong doing in the crime they were wrongfully convicted of. If airplanes only landed 97.65% of the time without crashing the public would be up in arms over airline safety and government oversite....but accidentally sentence 2.35 of every 100 of us to death? Forget about it, not a problem.
The government can only get one thing right and that is solving crimes and punishing the guilty. Ask anyone who does not trust the government to do anything but frick up and they will agree with that sentiment almost across the board.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 10:12 am to SECSolomonGrundy
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Aged 22, Smith was one of two men convicted in the murder-for-hire slaying of a preacher´s wife in 1988 that rocked a small north Alabama community.
His initial 1989 conviction was overturned on appeal, but he was retried and convicted again in 1996.
Prosecutors said he and John Forrest Parker were each paid $1,000 to kill Elizabeth Sennett on behalf of her husband, who was deeply in debt and wanted to collect on insurance.
Sennett, 45, was found dead March 18 that year in her home in Colbert County with eight stab wounds in the chest and one on each side of her neck, according to the coroner.
Her husband, Charles Sennett Sr., had hired Billy Gray Williams, one of his tenants, to murder his wife - but he then hired Smith and Parker to assist him.
After finding out that he was suspected of being involved in the plot, Charles Sennett Sr. killed himself.
Prosecutors said Smith and accomplice John Forrest Parker were each paid $1,000 to kill Elizabeth on behalf of her husband, Charles Sennett Sr. who was deeply in debt and wanted to collect on insurance
Posted on 1/25/24 at 10:12 am to el Gaucho
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We should bring back getting stoned to death. They do it in the Middle East and it doesn’t sound too bad. I wonder if they like use dabs or how it works
Why not just a billion small cuts from a razor administered over a long period of time? Maybe have them fight a tiger or a lion in an arena and charge admission. We only wrongfully convict 2.35% of people for capital crimes in the US, so what if 2 out of a 100 die for no reason as long as it is entertaining for some among us???
Posted on 1/25/24 at 10:15 am to el Gaucho
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We should bring back getting stoned to death
This ranks pretty high on my list of ways I do NOT want to die.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 10:16 am to Tiger in Gatorland
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Could get ugly.
Doubt it gets ugly, but al.com is having an absolute freak out over it. No one seems to realize that nitrogen makes up about 79% of the air we breathe.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 10:16 am to GumboPot
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And a lot more humane. Hypoxia is similar to drowning but slower.
The takeaway from 1930s and 40s Germany is there is no humane way to end a life. Acting humanely is not the point. The point is to satisfy the sense of revenge some folks have. It doesn't matter to most people that we have proven beyond and doubt, reasonable or otherwise, that we simply can not be trusted to sentence people to death in this country. No matter how we kill them we are going to kill some innocent folks in the process and anyone who supports the death penalty is OK with that. Not that this is wrong, its simply the truth.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 10:18 am to GumboPot
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Hypoxia is similar to drowning but slower.
There should be virtually no similarity to drowning from the standpoint of the one doing the dying. With nitrogen hypoxia there should be no realization by the one breathing the nitrogen that breathing effort is anything but successful. The dying person wouldn't realize that he's not getting air and would not feel like he is suffocating. In contrast, a drowning victim should suffer the effects of suffocation and overwhelming desire to breathe and not being able to do so.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 10:20 am to BiggerBear
Correct. Think Payne Stewart and the others on that plane.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 10:21 am to Tiger in Gatorland
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Could get ugly.
Won’t get you ugly. Will be calm and easy.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 10:24 am to Tiger in Gatorland
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nitrogen hypoxia
Probably not a bad way to go... apparently it feels like being drunk and you just fall asleep
Posted on 1/25/24 at 10:24 am to BiggerBear
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There should be virtually no similarity to drowning from the standpoint of the one doing the dying. With nitrogen hypoxia there should be no realization by the one breathing the nitrogen that breathing effort is anything but successful. The dying person wouldn't realize that he's not getting air and would not feel like he is suffocating. In contrast, a drowning victim should suffer the effects of suffocation and overwhelming desire to breathe and not being able to do so.
You really shouldn't have to explain this to people.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 10:25 am to TigerCoon
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They should have used liquid nitrogen instead.
But if he thaws out one day.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 10:26 am to Tiger in Gatorland
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they couldn’t get a vein.
They really couldn't find someone to be able to establish an IV for the injection. That almost seems unbelievable.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 10:28 am to danny d lsu
Why not grab a few fentanyl pills off one of the thousands of illegals streaming across our border. Give him a few of those, he passes out, and it's done. And a couple fentanyl pills are off the street 
Posted on 1/25/24 at 10:30 am to Tiger in Gatorland
I don't care how they execute these guys, they had no mercy on their victims
Posted on 1/25/24 at 10:38 am to el Gaucho
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We should bring back getting stoned to death. They do it in the Middle East and it doesn’t sound too bad. I wonder if they like use dabs or how it works
I know this is a tongue in cheek response, but I'd be fine with this.
I'm all about any method whatsoever being used, but I feel like the emotional toil on the people doing the stoning would be quite high.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 10:46 am to imjustafatkid
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I'm all about any method whatsoever being used, but I feel like the emotional toil on the people doing the stoning would be quite high.
Yeah I guess they’d have to hold the bong on their face even after they passed out
Posted on 1/25/24 at 10:46 am to Loup
With nitrogen hypoxia we could take out 6 or more death row scumbags at one time.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 10:47 am to AwgustaDawg
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Acting humanely is not the point. The point is to satisfy the sense of revenge some folks have. It doesn't matter to most people that we have proven beyond and doubt, reasonable or otherwise, that we simply can not be trusted to sentence people to death in this country. No matter how we kill them we are going to kill some innocent folks in the process and anyone who supports the death penalty is OK with that. Not that this is wrong, its simply the truth.
You make some valid points. While I see arguments on both sides, I still believe there are very rare cases where the death penalty is a proper punishment rather than simply “revenge”.
This is a case that just shows how messed up the whole issue is.
The crime occurred in 1988.
The second trial occurred in 1996.
The murderer was 22 at the time of the murder, meaning he has lived longer on death row than he had before the crime.
The jury in the case voted 11-1 for the life in prison, However, the judge overroad it - a law that has since been changed.
This was a murder for hire case where a preacher husband paid two men to kill his wife. He wound up committing suicide.
Of course, the whole circus around it is showing the world again just how morally bankrupt Kay Ivey and those who pull her puppet strings are.
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