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re: Alabama set to execute by nitrogen hypoxia…

Posted on 1/25/24 at 12:50 pm to
Posted by Tempratt
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Posted on 1/25/24 at 12:50 pm to
Typical liberals are concerned about the suffering and misery that the prisoner may go through.

You see they don’t give a shite about the suffering that the people that they murdered went through
This post was edited on 1/25/24 at 2:23 pm
Posted by MemphisGuy
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Posted on 1/25/24 at 1:03 pm to
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The main thing is to kill him

Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
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Posted on 1/25/24 at 1:25 pm to
Firing squad or hanging has my vote
Posted by brett randall
Depends on the moment.
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Posted on 1/25/24 at 1:27 pm to
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Firing squad or hanging has my vote


insert why not both gif
Posted by SpotCheckBilly
Member since May 2020
6479 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 1:30 pm to
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criticisms that Smith is essentially being used as a lab rat.


Except that lab rats generally don't commit murder and get sentenced to death.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
5713 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 1:35 pm to
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The takeaway from 1930s and 40s Germany is there is no humane way to end a life.


Planned Parenthood says otherwise.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 1/25/24 at 1:39 pm to
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The point is to satisfy the sense of revenge some folks have.


Actually vengeance can be quite cathartic to the victims of violent crime...

Why would you deny them a chance to relieve some of their pain?
Posted by GuidoVestieri
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2021
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Posted on 1/25/24 at 1:46 pm to
Is it on pay per view?
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 1/25/24 at 1:48 pm to
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How the frick does that make sense?


It means there was not a vein for the nurse/tech/whatever to access. The prisoner had probably used up all his veins from years of iv drug use. In a more advanced setting, a specially trained nurse could be called upon to start a more advanced iv (PICC line or mid-line), but that would require a higher level of training and specialized equipment that I doubt would be available for routine lethal injections. Nevertheless, it could've been rescheduled shortly to be done by the proper person using the appropriate equipment.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25590 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 1:48 pm to
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Aged 22, Smith was one of two men convicted in the murder-for-hire slaying of a preacher´s wife in 1988 that rocked a small north Alabama community.




I'm all for the death penalty, but good lord its rather stupid after 35 years has passed.


and the simplest method of death should be they fly you over the gulf of mexico several miles out and just drop you out of the plane from 20,000'+. 99% chance they'll die on impact adn then get eaten, or they may survive the fall, and then drown/get eaten. It at least gives them some shitty time to think about what's about to happen, as it's happening.
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 1/25/24 at 1:52 pm to
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Sounds like an origin stoty for a Mr Freeze supervillain.


That would one of the the risks. Then we would have to hope some for some billionaire who lost his parents to street crime.
Posted by rooster108bm
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/25/24 at 2:02 pm to
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Of course, the whole circus around it is showing the world again just how morally bankrupt Kay Ivey and those who pull her puppet strings are.


Your a fricking idiot that knows nothing about Alabama law. Ivey actually tried her best to postpone the the execution and the Attorney General told her it wasn't her fricking decision.

Believe me, I'm no Kay Ivey lover but you're full of shite.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 1/25/24 at 2:06 pm to
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Typical liberals are concerned about the suffering and misery that the prisoner may go through.

You see they’ll give a shite about the suffering that the people that they murdered went through



So being opposed to the state causing another human being misery and suffering is political?

A slight majority of Americans support the death penalty. In some cases it is doubtlessly necessary and just, but as applied in the US there is nothing just about it. The support is fading and fading fast because even among those who support the death penalty an overwhelming majority do not trust the state or federal government to mete out the ultimate penalty fairly or efficiently. Its incredible expensive and divisive and will die of its own weight sooner rather than later as more and more Americans realize the state has no business killing people using the current model.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 1/25/24 at 2:09 pm to
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Wouldn't a firing squad or hanging work?


I think we should bring back Blowing from a Gun
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 1/25/24 at 2:10 pm to
I’ve been saying for years that death my nitrogen asphyxiation makes so much sense. Nitrogen is cheap, the death is painless, and the death is instant.
Posted by saintsfan1977
West Monroe, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
7710 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 2:13 pm to
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The mother fricker is about to be put to death, coulda tried a different vein, same needle.


The mother fricker is tied to a gurney. Strangle him with a wire or rope.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
23977 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 2:15 pm to
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Wouldn't a firing squad


That's the Utah way...

LINK
Posted by rooster108bm
Member since Nov 2010
2890 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 2:15 pm to
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So being opposed to the state causing an


It would be defined as cruel and unusual.

That being said cruel and unusual in 1787 didn't include hanging, tar and feathering, keel hauling, and every colonial town had stocks and pillorys for public humiliation of lesser crimes such as adultery.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 1/25/24 at 2:26 pm to
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Actually vengeance can be quite cathartic to the victims of violent crime...

Why would you deny them a chance to relieve some of their pain?


I wouldn't. I am not totally opposed to the death penalty. I am totally opposed to how it is applied in the US currently. The damage done to 332 million people when the state can summarily execute people when it is a documented fact that 2.35 of every hundred people sentenced to death in the US since 1972 have been innocent of the crimes they were convicted of, is far worse than the closure and cathartic effect afforded some victims. Most of those exonerations do not involve new evidence or new technology, most of them were convictions where the evidence that ultimately proved the accused's innocence was available at the time of the initial trial.

As far as the victims families and catharsis it could well be that they would reach the same level of acceptance and closure in the average 18 years it takes to execute the convicted IF the case wasn't constantly be rehashed. There are numerous studies concerning this issue which indicate the victims left behind find no catharsis or closure when the convicted is executed. Many also mention the period between conviction and execution has torn their families apart because of differing perspectives over the issue of executing the convicted.

Mathematically there is very little chance that all of the people who have been executed in the US since 1972 were guilty. 2.35 out of 100 who have been convicted have been exonerated. Imagine the victims suffering when it is documented that someone who was innocent was executed? Simply based on the data we have imagine the suffering imposed on the estimated 1970 people (10 per exoneration) who were put through the suffering of their loss, the initial trial and the appeals only to find that the state convicted the wrong person and the criminal that caused their grief is still unknown and possibly at large. Couple that with the suffering imposed on the family of the exonerated, not to mention the suffering imposed on the exonerated themselves. The catharsis that some no doubt experience is not worth the suffering in just those cases which are known.
Posted by Tigris
Mexican Home
Member since Jul 2005
12358 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 3:01 pm to
"And you still have a job at this place?"

Not in more than 3 decades. But I was there for another 7 years and did learn.
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